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♥ Naomi™♥	Are you fucking retarted??? You must be with that statement you just made!!!   Posted by ♥ Naomi™♥ on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 10:04 PM [Reply to this]

	Michael, "The Situation" Guy! Michael Rochester	Su below: You liberals want the minority to triumph over the majority. That is why whenever a referendum rules against gay marriage, the liberals go to the courts to overturn the will of the people.   Posted by Michael, "The Situation" Guy! on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:19 AM

	S♥Ryder	Riiiight, punishing a majority for the actions of the minority. NOW that's really dumb!   Posted by S♥Ryder on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:42 AM

	joe	Me too Naomi, but they live for this mentality   Posted by joe on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 1:36 PM [Reply to this]

	♥ Naomi™♥	It is bred into them from the day they are born to hate America they are truly sick and demented people   Posted by ♥ Naomi™♥ on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 7:32 PM [Reply to this]

	S♥Ryder	I see. So if another culture practices human sacrifice and pederasty then that's OK, right? Clearly, then, it wasn't for us to say that Hitler's liquidation of the Jews was wrong; because there is no right or wrong with different cultures according to you. They just live their lives a "different way." If men want to cut out womens' clitorises, poor acid on their faces, beat them, and murder them for dishonoring the family by dating a boy from another tribe, then that's perfectly fine. You are so dense. Hitler was a bad seed, obviously. There are clearly right and wrongs in different cultures, with murder being a WRONG! Cutting of the clit, while i don't agree with it, is a ritual in which women practice with their daughters, it's not forced upon them by men. Oh and the Bible quotes that it is ok to kill daughters or women who dishonor their family. Hypocrite much? "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9)   Posted by S♥Ryder on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 9:54 PM [Reply to this]

	Jacob	You have to do better than that if you wish to use moral equivalence. Firtsly, Nazism is not a culture, bringing it into the argument is a red herring. Secondly Leviticus 21  deals with rules for the priests, not with women per se and indeed as you quoted, it deals with daughters of priests, not every woman AND most important, in Judaism, death punishment is ALWAYS the domain of God not man. Islam is a religion, not a culture or a race. As much as Islam is a violent region, particularly towards women, female circumcision is a cultural custom, not a religious one. Not all Muslim practice it AND there are non-Muslim, mainly in Africa, who do practice genital mutilation including, but not limited to, female circumcision, e.g  Ethiopian Christians. You are right though that genital mutilation is always performed by other female, usually with the participation of mother but can also be performed by other women.   Posted by Jacob on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 2:22 AM [Reply to this]

	Timothy	Wrong.  It is the men that demand the clit be removed to insure she will not be tempted to leave her future husband.  I cannot believe you are defending this mutilation.  You cannot be this dumb.   Posted by Timothy on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 2:46 PM [Reply to this]

	♥ Naomi™♥	She is this Dumb look at the statement she made to me either that or she is retarted.....Im not sure which it is!!!   Posted by ♥ Naomi™♥ on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 10:04 PM [Reply to this]

	Hamish Hamish Stewart	Sorry Naomi but I usually never have a go at typos ( I make so many  myself ) but retarted ! to funny to be true ! looking at the context I am starting to think it was no typo   Posted by Hamish on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 2:54 AM [Reply to this]

	♥ Naomi™♥	here ya go moron... RETARDED!....now go sniff your fish your holding and STFU!!!!!!!   Posted by ♥ Naomi™♥ on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:43 AM [Reply to this]

	Hamish Hamish Stewart	Ouch ! Naomi I apologise for that post it was not thought out, more importantly you realised how stupid it was and contacted me and gave me a chance to explain it and gave me your perspective on it. I am very impressed by honest people and contacting me was honest Ms. Ryder could do that but I doubt she will. I will always say sorry if I am wrong and now I am going to ask for your friendship on MySpace. Trust me I need people who are prepared to say STFU Hamish as friends, because I am intending to break the law, on my blog I am going to name the pedeophiles rapists and murders who have court ordered name suppression in New Zealand and explain my blog is public and give the authiorities its address a lot of bloggers are doing this in NZ. It will be the first time I have broken the law and left evidence   Posted by Hamish on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 1:06 AM

	S♥Ryder	SORRY dude, I just studied this in my ISLAMIC ANTHROPOLOGY CLASS! Make sure you look in the mirror when you say that.   Posted by S♥Ryder on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 9:08 PM [Reply to this]

	Timothy	I studied this too bitch!  The purpose is to limit the sex drive of the woman!  Does it matter what the gender of the one with the knife!!!   Posted by Timothy on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 10:55 AM [Reply to this]

	S♥Ryder	WOW! I never said I agree with it, however I don't look at the subject ethnocentrically so I can see why they would want to keep their rituals in tact. GEEEEEEESH!   Posted by S♥Ryder on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 2:06 PM [Reply to this]

	S♥Ryder	Better than a bimbo with no brains!   Posted by S♥Ryder on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:42 AM

	♥ Naomi™♥	Your just an idiot!!!   Posted by ♥ Naomi™♥ on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 10:04 PM

	Sabrina Phillips	..A college these days would have an "Islamic anthropology class"   Posted by Sabrina Phillips on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 9:10 PM [Reply to this]

	Timothy	Islam is all the rage with liberals, especially after 911.  They want to "understand" this loony cult.   Posted by Timothy on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 11:08 AM [Reply to this]

	S♥Ryder	It's no cult, but I guess it does sound like something you would say. "I don't like it, or understand it, so it's a cult!"   Posted by S♥Ryder on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 2:06 PM

	S♥Ryder	So what's wrong with that! Islam is a hot topic, in which internet Christians in this blog think they know all about. My professor lived over there for years. She is a wealth of information, and I would believe her study, than any of the idiots in here.   Posted by S♥Ryder on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 9:48 PM [Reply to this]

	Michael, "The Situation" Guy! Michael Rochester	Su, if you lived at Disney World, do you think you would be an expert on Mickey Mouse than any of us plebeians then?   Posted by Michael, "The Situation" Guy! on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:23 AM

	S♥Ryder	Great you lived in the Caribbean, if I wanted info about that I would go to you. I would listen to her, I don't care what you have to say. I never said in any of this I agree with their practices! No one here gets that! Are there things that need to be changed in Muslim countries, of course, but exterminate them as the crazies in this blog suggest is insane   Posted by S♥Ryder on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 2:06 PM

	Mike SaxMan	Ryder, You want wealth of information without wasting money on the crap you expouse, with not so much eloquence, then read the Bible (and don't say you read it and understand it, it is clear by your comments).  3 years anywhere does not an expert make.  I lived 15 years in the Caribbean and now 28 in the US.  So, I am a Sage with volumes more of wealth of information on US and Caribbean affairs.  You should be listening to me.  3 years in nothing.  Take some advice, just reading Proverbs alone will give you most of the guidance you need for everyday living.  Defending of fools and their folly is not the smart thing to do.  No matter how you want to rationalize it.  Enjoy   Posted by Mike SaxMan on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 10:08 AM

	Jerry Jerry Riter	As an imperfect Christian I beg you, please don't quote the Bible or speak for Christians.  Jesus himself forbade the stoning of an adultress.  Bits and snippets show ignorance and I believe you are better than that.   Posted by Jerry on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 11:37 AM [Reply to this]

	S♥Ryder	it's not bits and snippets, it's all over the Bible, I can keep on finding other examples. i found many references last night when going through my Bible. My point in this is, they are doing the same things, pulling snippets from the Quaran in order to ok their hate.   Posted by S♥Ryder on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 1:37 PM [Reply to this]

	Jerry Jerry Riter	I'm sorry, I had not meant to open a dialogue. I judge religion by the effect it has on it's followers. "I don't give a farthing for a man's religion if his dog and cat are not the better for it."  Not being Muslim, I don't quote the Quran.  An avowed atheist gains no creditibility quoting the Bible.   Posted by Jerry on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 4:07 PM [Reply to this]

	S♥Ryder	I don't quote the Quaran, and I'm not an athiest either. I'm here stating my opinion, and also the other side of the argument, because many in here aren't thinking about the other side, nor care to acknowledge it.   Posted by S♥Ryder on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 5:04 PM [Reply to this]

	Jacob	Go ahead, find as many snippets as heart content and when you do, please show us ONE, AND ONLY ONE example of Jews or Christians, strapping bombs to their kids,  stoning  women or  flying aircrafts into buildings quoting the Bible as the reason, ONE ONLY!   Posted by Jacob on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 2:22 AM [Reply to this]

	S♥Ryder	Stonning to death punishment for non virgin women. 22.20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel, (unmarried women) 22.21 then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die, because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father’s house; so shalt thou put evil away from among you. Death punishment for adultery. 22.22 “If a man be found lying with a woman married to a husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman and the woman; so shalt thou put away evil from Israel. Stoning to death punishment for virgin women for adultery. 22.23 If a damsel who is a virgin be betrothed unto a husband, and a man find her in the city and lie with her, 22.24 then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones, that they die — the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city, and the man,because he hath humbled his neighbor’s wife; so thou shalt put away evil from among you. Stoning for blasphemy Leviticus 24:10-16 Now an Israelite woman's son, whose father was an Egyptian, went out among the people of Israel; and the Israelite woman's son and a man of Israel quarreled in the camp, and the Israelite woman's son blasphemed the Name, and cursed. And they brought him to Moses. His mother's name was Shelo'mith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan. And they put him in custody, till the will of the LORD should be declared to them. And the LORD said to Moses, "Bring out of the camp him who cursed; and let all who heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him. And say to the people of Israel, Whoever curses his God shall bear his sin. He who blasphemes the name of the LORD shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him; the sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death. Leviticus 24:23 So Moses spoke to the people of Israel; and they brought him who had cursed out of the camp, and stoned him with stones. Thus the people of Israel did as the LORD commanded Moses Stoning for stubborn and rebellious sons Deuteronomy 21:18-21 "If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son, who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they chastise him, will not give heed to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, `This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.' Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.   Posted by S♥Ryder on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 2:06 PM [Reply to this]

	Jacob	And? When was the last time that you heard that any of that was applicable?   Posted by Jacob on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:43 AM

	Joe the Magnificent	Jacob, I can't believe that you don't think a single woman has ever been stoned to death as a consequence of what it says in the Bible! Do you think all those laws were never enforced? And while bombs and aircraft are modern inventions, there are plenty of Old Testament examples of what we would now consider to be war crimes: the killing of non-combatants on a massive scale.   Posted by Joe the Magnificent on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 10:09 AM [Reply to this]

	Jacob	There are many things that were common in Biblical times that we don't practice todays, it is called progress. You cannot apply today's values to Biblical times and I suspect that you know it. The fact remain that no Jew straps bombs onto kids and send them to blow themselves up reciting the Bible. But you see Muslim do it these very days.   Posted by Jacob on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:43 AM

	David David Rooke	Sorry but your just taking bits from the bible and ignoring the context.   Posted by David on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 2:22 AM [Reply to this]

	Timothy	I find it amazing you think we should accept your "I'm a Christian" blaaa, blaaaa, blaaaaa, all while you are pissing on the Bible.  There are references all over the place to slavery, and violence, all part of the culture of the times in the Bible.  You will find few if any that can be used to argue for evil behaviors.  You are not a Christian sweetie, and we all know it....   Posted by Timothy on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 2:45 PM [Reply to this]

	CONSERVATIVE HERO Conservative Hero	It won't let me reply to your other comment, or many other people's either, for some reason. So I'll do so here. You said "I understand when you give up and slam them." I'm glad to see someone understands my burden. Seriously, how many times can you hear someone say two plus two is five, and politely say no it's not, it's four (and this is why it's four), before you finally have enough and say, "you're a moron stfu already?" They have no legitimate rebuttal. All they can do is cite my 'lack of civility' (because their impermeable mental turbidity exhausted my patience) which is not an argument. (Leftists always do this; act as if the fact someone judging their behavior is human "proves" something which in some way validates their immoral beliefs and lifestyles.) The fact that I say two plus two is four "impolitely" doesn't change the fact I'm correct. What they're basically arguing is that my rudeness negates my assertions and makes me no better than those I criticize; which is akin to arguing that a man who calls a rapist a "piece of sh*t rapist" is no better than the bastard he ridicules. But I'm supposed to just sit here and keep banging my head against their wall of idiocy with a smile. And if I don't I, not the baby-killing puke I'm rebuking, am the "bad person."   This all, if anything, should be a lesson on why it's impossible to have a coherent discussion with a relativist. God bless Sabrina for her perseverance in suffering such cretins; I simply don't have it in me to do the same. I mean these are people whose beliefs are virtually completely untethered to either reason or any sense of their historical identity. Talking to them is like being doused by a fire hose of pure stupid. I can only take so much before it starts to wrinkle my skin and I need to take a break. It's important for all Christians to understand something though. These people, and their damnable schemes, are contingent upon Christian apathy to reach fruition. They, even the stupid ones on some level, know this. It's therefore crucial to their agenda that Christians do not know this, and are kept unaware of their power, lest their lethargy wear off resulting in marxism being strangled in this country. That's the reason they're always aggressively working to keep Christians sedated, to pacify their moral outrage, by convincing them it's their "religious duty" to tolerate evil. The day we stop "tolerating" them is the day they are effing over. http://c-hblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/there-is-old-quote-i-like.html   Posted by CONSERVATIVE HERO on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 8:03 PM [Reply to this]

	Timothy	Hero you are far more patient than I am, lol.  You've written, at length, what I would say is worthy of publishing.  Seriously.  The thread is easily followed, logical and backed up with reason.  Yet, Ryder and those of her way of thinking cannot grasp it.  Personally, I believe some on here are not only ideologs, they are plants from different groups. America's workers party and other such communist groups, attempting grass roots recruiting.  Not only do they understand what you are saying, they don't like the fact they cannot counter.  They want you to shut up so they can without resistance, blather on and on, drawing in the mindless, and uninformed.  Basically, just don't give up.  We need you HERE.   Posted by Timothy on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 3:46 PM

	S♥Ryder	The Bible is flawed, but there are great example in it in how to act and treat others. That's what I follow.   Posted by S♥Ryder on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 9:08 PM [Reply to this]

	S♥Ryder	Peace, love, dope........  Now get the hell outa here, loooooser pants! I don't know why you said dope. I've never smoke any my entire life. You want me to leave, because I'm not a drone and don't agree with everything you say. GROW UP!   Posted by S♥Ryder on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 1:46 AM

	Timothy	Peace, love, dope........  Now get the hell outa here, loooooser pants!   Posted by Timothy on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 10:22 PM

	S♥Ryder	Clearly Sabrina you are arguing over something so mundane. You don't get it, move along.   Posted by S♥Ryder on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 9:48 PM

	Sabrina Phillips	..Then you are following it wrong. The bible isn't just a good story with good morals...it's the living word of God. You are supposed to follow Him..not try to be like Him, you will never accomplish that.   Posted by Sabrina Phillips on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 9:11 PM

	Sabrina Phillips	..You are using the Bible to justify the Quran as though they are one in the same!   Posted by Sabrina Phillips on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 2:21 PM [Reply to this]

	S♥Ryder	No, I'm using it to justify the cultural context!   Posted by S♥Ryder on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 9:08 PM [Reply to this]

	S♥Ryder	Well at least my religion isn't hate!   Posted by S♥Ryder on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 2:06 PM

	Timothy	Your religion is liberalism.  You are not a Christian.  Using the Bible as though it is a story book is pathetic at best.  The Bible is clearly black and white on the issues.  Just call yourself "spiritual" as the rest of your liberal pals.  Your dishonesty doesn't fly here.   Posted by Timothy on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 11:12 AM

	S♥Ryder	I feel like I'm speaking to a child. Once again you don't get it! You can't find any fault in the Bible, which clearly there are, you are brainwashed! I can believe in God, be a Christian, and see the Bible for what it is. Everything isn't so black and white! There are grays too!   Posted by S♥Ryder on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 1:46 AM

	Sabrina Phillips	..The Quran and the Bible are polar opposites.   Posted by Sabrina Phillips on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 9:12 PM

	Moshellie Michelle J.	..It's not about justifying the Qur'an or defending it... i'm one of its biggest critics. It's about seeing where the responsibility lies... not in a book, but people's twisting of the contents of the book. If you've read the Qur'an, you know there are some parts of it that are positive and promote peace and love... and there are parts with war and violence. If someone focuses on only the aspects that nurture their inbred hate... of course it will lead to hateful fundamentalism. People do it with the bible all the time, but I wouldn't blame a book for the actions a person takes.   Posted by Moshellie on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 2:46 PM [Reply to this]

S♥Ryder

to go and spread the Gospel but NOT by force Yea but like that stopped Christians from forcing people anyways! Doesn't matter if it was in the Bible or not, it still happened!   Posted by S♥Ryder on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 1:46 AM