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Karlie Karlie Mason	I'm sorry you can't back up your views with reason or fact.   Posted by Karlie on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:42 AM [Reply to this]

	Timothy	I'm suppose to debate with someone that believes the tripe that the Hitler of Iran spews?  Really??  You are not grounded in truth pea brain, and you are boring.   Posted by Timothy on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 5:30 PM

	J.C.	My "air card" is acting up, sorry for any repeats.   Posted by J.C. on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 11:38 AM [Reply to this]

	Sabrina Phillips	..J.C., I appreciate your comments because they are realistic and intelligent. You can take up as much space as you want :)   Posted by Sabrina Phillips on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 2:43 PM [Reply to this]

	J.C.	Iran oppresses women, and kills gays, I would think that Liberals would be besides themselves with rage over just these two issues, not even mentioning all the other human rights violations occurring there.   Posted by J.C. on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 11:38 AM [Reply to this]

	Harshglare	lets not forget these three:   Posted by Harshglare on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 11:39 AM [Reply to this]

	Late Night Trip	After everything we've done to the Middle east over the last 50 years you wonder why they hate America? Oh, Bush is gone so all is well. Our foreign policy speaks loud and clear to third world countries. That's why Latin America wants nothing to do with our IMF WorldBank policies. Please read your actual history before posting such asinine words. I do not justify Ahmadinjade's behavior because he's as crazy as people like you. If you had his power you would do the same, I know this from reading your crazy rants......... YOUR FUCKING INSANE!   Posted by Late Night Trip on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 1:37 PM [Reply to this]

	Hamish Hamish Stewart	FFS OK time for a little educating By "our " Worldbank and IMF policies I am guessing you mean the USA, well both organisation are made up of 186 member nations, but the Worldbanks mission is to provide development funds to developing countries and fighting poverty is infact its primary goal. The IMF on the other hand has a mission of securing global financial stability, fostering trade creating employment etc. Now Late Night Twit I think you owe your fellow citizens an apology. OK what has America done well Kuwait was nice of you,actually I think Iraq had to be done in the end and hell certainly got Libyas attention. OK despite the US being always late paying up to the UN America always pays, now just how do you think peace keeping in the middle east would be funded ? Americans doesn't participate in those missions but America pays for them. OK looks like your grasp on history isn't quite what you thought it was Twit ?. OK Sabrina is insane well that she puts up with idiots like you I guess that is evidence to back up your assertion but actually even if you disagree with her all her arguments I have read are perfectly sane and logical. I am politically a left of centre liberal by American standards and by New Zealand standards very much in the centre maybe slightly to the right.     Posted by Hamish on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 10:06 PM [Reply to this]

	Timothy	For how many decades have westerners been attacked, killed, enslaved, raped, and robbed by Muslims little boy?  I don't know where you get your history but clearly you are an ignorant tool.   Posted by Timothy on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 9:04 PM [Reply to this]

	Sabrina Phillips	..Oh yes, I would agree with Ahmadinjad considering I believe in LIFE,LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS! Sprinkle over that with the fact that my family is from Israel, asshat. Freak.   Posted by Sabrina Phillips on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 2:44 PM [Reply to this]

	Mr. Right Now Alex Alex	Amahdinejad declares The United States as the antichrist (the big Satan) And Jerusalem, the little satan. He is delusional and a madman.   Posted by Mr. Right Now on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 5:07 PM [Reply to this]

	Hamish Hamish Stewart	The real problem with Iran is that diplomacy has failed and no politician will recognise that. Ahmadinajad claims 20% enrichment Fatboy was 80% that means the world has about 3 years according to experts untill Iran has a nuclear weapon. That Iran hasn't seen the elephant in the room is astonishing Israel has an estimated 165 nucear weapons and all the delivery capabilty it requires. Western antipathy for Iran/Islam will grow. In the comments I see one increadibly stupid person posting that "Hitler was a bad seed" I laughed at that disciption of the most evil man of the 20th century, but on refection it is appropriate and that seed has born fruit, Ahmadinajad. Hitler lead Germany to destruction, history has already told us appeasement doesn't work. Ahmadinajad would do well to reflect on the fact that history repeats. If I was a politician I wouldn't waste my time with diplomacy negotations etc. Facts are not left or right wing liberal or conservative. I feel sorry for the people of Iran as the wheel that is history bears down on them but they are the only people who can change its direction.    Posted by Hamish on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 7:34 PM [Reply to this]

	Timothy	Well said H.   Posted by Timothy on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 5:03 PM [Reply to this]

	Hamish Hamish Stewart	Just to introduce a bit of humor to the debate I can't imagine the sin that the New Zealand Ambassador committed to get the Iranian post this is the New Zealand Embassy Shit I bet he is regretting that we have diplomatic relations with Iran, maybe they will appoint him to the Court of St.James next New Zealand House in London is fantastic. Mind you I think we need to get him out fast as he has started to go native He has put up a picture of the Supreme Leader in reception New Zealand Prime Minister John Key not Queen Elizabeth II.   Posted by Hamish on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 9:03 PM [Reply to this]

	Chard Richard Letteney	Nice of you to keep us informed on even the most stomache turning, hate spewing, psychopathic a-holes in the world today. You're a bright spot during a very dark night. It's just to bad more people from both sides of the isle can't or won't listen to these reports and come to the same conclusion. Now is the time for ALL AMERICANS to come together and STAND TOGETHER AS ONE NATION, UNDER GOD(whatever that means to you personally),INDIVISIBLE,WITH LIBERTY, AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!!        WE ARE AMERICANS! IT'S HIGH TIME WE STARTED ACTING LIKE IT AGAIN!!   Posted by Chard on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 10:08 AM [Reply to this]

	The one and only Joker Stephan Johnston	It's simply mind-boggling that we still have tyrants like ahmadummy and the like. In my opinion, we should bomb Iran into the stone age. What I'm hoping is that Obambi's just waiting until march before we take Iran out. If not, hopefully Israel will do something.             People deserve to be free to do what they like, as in America. I personally respect all protests and demonstrations even if we don't agree. It's funny how protests were cheered under Bush and now they're in shock that anyone could possibly find fault in their progressive tactics. Progressives are great at campaigning, but not so good at governing. McCain was as progressive as Obambi, but the difference is McCain would of stopped spending, not increased it, Or atleast that's what he claimed during his campaign.   Posted by The one and only Joker on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 1:01 PM [Reply to this]

	HARRY FOX	Posted by The one and only Joker on  February 13 bomb Iran into the stone age. And iran would just stand by and  challenge the US to a game of scrabble? You pasty faced little nerd. You can't create so you destroy. It's funny how protests were cheered under Bush and now they're in shock that anyone could possibly find fault in their progressive tactics. Yeah i suspect democrats were cheering protests against bush but are less happy about protets against their own party. That can't be a first in world political history    Posted by HARRY FOX on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:21 AM [Reply to this]

	SIMPLEPARADOX (C-HI)	You are wasting your time with such ignorant perverts. They do not know, and do not wish to learn.   Posted by SIMPLEPARADOX (C-HI) on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 9:11 PM [Reply to this]

	chuck Chuck hu-wantstuno	Well written but I can not agree or disagree with you here. And ten years from now opinions of Iran maybe different then now. Take WWII for example China and Russia were our allies while Germany and Japan were the enemy. The war ends it completely flips. Now I'm not happy they're Nuclear them or: Pakistan, India, Russia, former Soviet States, and everywhere else I can't currently think of. The question how do we control the possibility of stupid people accessing the nuke. Its a thought that we should keep in mind its not just Iran any nation with this capability is dangerous to the peace of the world. Now this by no means justifies Iran its just my view of the bigger picture.   Posted by chuck on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 2:55 AM [Reply to this]

	Hamish Hamish Stewart	How about The United Kingdom, France, and Israel they all have  nukes, for fucks sake you are stupid ashtrays do not have opinions and that is what we are talking about. You support non-proliferation fine the only country in the world to do that is mine New Zealand and it is meaningless.  You control Iran with a threat and that is do not threaten America or Americas friends ie. Israel and if you develop the ability to threaten them well ashtray time. I will tell you now there is no danger of stupid people getting a nuke at the moment America can stop it but if we limit America then yes you are right they will and the world will pay you are arguing for appeasement think and think again.   Posted by Hamish on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:44 AM [Reply to this]

	The Woodsman	I have skimmed through some of the responses and see very little substance. Let's examine the facts from a historical point of view since real history is a great predictor of the future.The "Iranians" have managed to enrich uranium to 20% and claim they can enrich it to 90%. 20% is enough to make crude weapon and any amount of enriched uranium can make a "dirty bomb". Iran has gone through the back door to wage war against the west. They support terrorism  and had a key roll in the civil war in Lebanon by using Syria as a surrogate to do it's bidding. The are one of the top two oil producing countries in the world. They suppress free speech,the media and kill gays. They have one of the highest per-capita ratios of "political prisoners to population" in the world. They have funneled weapons to terrorists groups in Iraq in order to kill Americans and I am sure they are doing the same in Afghanistan. Religious ideology can not be removed from the argument as President Tom believes in the 12th Imam, the one who will magically appear and usher in victory for Islam. So the question is, based on facts and historical behaviors. Do we sit back and wait for Iran to possibly kill 100's of thousands people when they decide to give "dirty bombs or crude weapons" to terrorists or perhaps launch a missile themselves. What is it going to take in order for the world to say "Hey dude, enough is enough already". How many will need to die? How many is worth the wait? What is the acceptable number? Can anyone answer this? I am especially interested in what you peaceniks have to say. It was Iran that killed 241 Marines in Lebanon through their surrogate. It has been Iran that has been providing the training and material to make roadside bombs that have crippled and killed Americans. It will be Iran that will usher in a new world war. It is inevitable.   Posted by The Woodsman on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:42 AM [Reply to this]

	The Woodsman	Hmmmm...... Just a thought. If Iran is controlling the media, suppressing free speech, jailing the political opposition and killing gays. Shouldn't the elitist Hollywood liberals be holding some sort of who's who celebrity benefit to collect cash to ease the suffering of freedom wanting Iranian? Shouldn't Sean Penn and Danny Glover be holding a peace summit with President Tom? Why won't our celebrities visit Iran to show us how wonderful their government is? I am perplexed by the lack of attention that Hollywood is giving this situation.   Posted by The Woodsman on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 3:46 PM [Reply to this]

	Jacob	The bleeding hearts liberal don't give rat's dropping about the people of Iran for a simple reason, the vast majority of the Iranian people are pro-American and even more so when we talk about the opposition to the mullahs. Have no doubt, when (I hope it is a when) the Iranians will get their freedom finally, we will see Iran that is allied to the West, particularly with the USA. Iranians, as individuals, rather do business with America than fight it and scares the daylight out of their current brutal regime. Hence they, the regime, ratchet the anti American and anti-Israel Islamic rhetoric. But that where the parallel with the jihadist Islam ends. I am certain that liberal will come to the help of the Iranian people, they will stick some  50 cents "I support the people of Iran" bumper stickers but will continue to oppose any suggestion of real help to the people of Iran, not that Obama is going to do anything to assist anytime soon. We filled in some eight pages (thus far), my 2 cents worth included, talking about everything from the status of the woman in Biblical time, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, illegitimacy of Israel, liberalism, liberty etc, etc, etc and very little about the two main issues that you raised; The oppression of the Iranian people to their regime and the real risk a nuclear Iran is pausing. Make no mistake, given the opportunity, the current regime in Iran will attempt to use a nuclear weapon on Israel, the fact that in doing so they will kill just as many, if not more, Muslims than Jews does not escape them, they are quite prepared to scarify their Muslim "bothers" for the cause, particularly whereas these Muslims are largely Sunnis and the Iranian are Shia and there is no much love between the two. What the Iranian Regime needs above all, on both counts, is time and they are getting plenty of it. The US have been trying the path of sanctions for the past eight years but got nowhere, mainly because the opposition of the Europeans and Russia. Now that Europe and Russia seem to be onboard, the Chinese are in the way with their veto power in the UN. In both cases it is a classic case of pursuing policies of appeasement, sounds familiar? Indeed the situation is not much difference to that the late 1930's Germany, albeit we are not aware of any real opposition inside Germany at that time. Hitler had his Hitlerjugend, Ahmadinejad has his Revolutionary Guards to subjugate their respective people, Hitler re-armed Germany against the Treaty Of Versailles and the League Of Nations  (the forerunner to the UN) and Ahmadinejad, developing nuclear weapon  in contravention to None Proliferation Treaty that Iran is a signatory to. Now as then, we have world leaders who think that Ahmadinejad is "just talking". Robert Gibbs does not release gas into his pants without approval by the White House -- he does not make policy he just present it and when he make such silly statements we all know where it comes from. However, liberal rather equivocate  about useless moral equivalence between the Bible and the Koran although neither have anything to do with problem. Peace in our times! This is where events are heading. More Kleenex anyone?   Posted by Jacob on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:43 AM [Reply to this]

	The Woodsman	Good response. 8 pages of liberal arguments that do not deal with the reality of what is happening. It is obvious to me that none of these peaceniks has ever faced a terrorist regime on their turf and seen first hand how the populations are oppressed through the various tools they use. They starve them, beat them, harass families and neighbors of the opposition. They jail them torture them and kill them. I have met many average everyday Iranians here in the US and overseas. They are not in Iran for 1 reason. There is no freedom there. Most Iranians want peace and freedom. The brave ones protesting in the streets need our support, but they will not get it as long as the world ignores the real problem in Iran.   Posted by The Woodsman on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 3:46 PM [Reply to this]

	[matt]	It's kinda funny though that we put this government in place during Nixon's administration, huh?   Posted by [matt] on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 3:45 PM [Reply to this]

	HARRY FOX	Posted by Sabrina Phillips on , February 14 You are abnormally obsessed Really? Your 2nd ammendment killed john lennon. Nothing was learnt from that. It is my duty to ram this down your scabby throat until you throw up and then ram it down it again the streets of Las Vegas and axed Just think of the damage he would've done with a gun     Posted by HARRY FOX on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 5:30 PM [Reply to this]

	Sabrina Phillips	You make a big deal over John Lennon because he was famous and killed by  a gun yet you simply pass over people who are killed every day WITHOUT guns. You say "just think of the damage he would've done with a gun" Killing someone is KILLING someone. I have a newsflash for you, if someone is a psycho it doesn't matter what they get their hands on. If there is intent then there is intent.   Posted by Sabrina Phillips on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 5:37 PM [Reply to this]

	HARRY FOX	if someone is a psycho it doesn't matter what they get their hands on.   Sabrina Phillips on February 14 So the v-tech killer would've killed just as many people with an axe, right sabby?   Posted by HARRY FOX on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 6:04 PM [Reply to this]

	Moshellie Michelle J.	..If you really think that someone with intent to kill wouldn't find means to do so, with legal or otherwise weaponry... you're painfully naive.   Posted by Moshellie on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:26 AM [Reply to this]

	Karlie Karlie Mason	The v-tech killer would have found guns whether through legal or illegal means, or he would have taken more time to devise bombs. Had he not been on a gun-free campus when he committed his crime, however, there may have been a chance of someone having the tools to stop his killing spree before he killed so many.   Posted by Karlie on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 6:51 PM [Reply to this]

	HARRY FOX	The v-tech killer Posted by Karlie on  February 15 blah blah blah. Answer my question. Would he have killed as many people using an axe?   Posted by HARRY FOX on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:23 AM [Reply to this]

	Sabrina Phillips	By the way, thanks for posting that...my husband is so hot  and you just reminded me of how much I truly appreciate him   Posted by Sabrina Phillips on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 5:38 PM [Reply to this]

	HARRY FOX	you just reminded me   Sabrina Phillips on  February 14 So you'd forgotten then   Posted by HARRY FOX on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 6:04 PM [Reply to this]

	Sabrina Phillips	No. I just appreciate pictures being posted of my husband :) Makes me smile.   Posted by Sabrina Phillips on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 6:05 PM [Reply to this]

	HARRY FOX	No. I just    Sabrina Phillips on February 15, If only you'd said that in your 1st comment about this instead of what you did.   Posted by HARRY FOX on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:23 AM [Reply to this]

	Moshellie Michelle J.	..Well now,... I just noticed on his pic that you live a stone's throw from my family (Gaston/ Hillsboro). I go there often, and will likely move there someday. For being so conservative you sure do live in the thickest liberal population outside of San Fran, LOL.   Posted by Moshellie on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:19 AM [Reply to this]

	HARRY FOX	It's rather too bad   Posted by CONSERVATIVE HERO on Saturday, February 13 Sooner or later, a pro-lifer will say something as charmless as that in a debate against a pro choicer. "Vince" said it here ( see under "family planning"): http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=520250671&blogId=527990272 and you said something characteristically vile again in s. phillip's blog, recorded here: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=520250671&blogId=527772066 You are just a neanderthal and, judging by your hysterical rant against gays here, a closet homosexual. Sabrina phillips would not allow a liberal get away with  wishing death on people like this.   Posted by HARRY FOX on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 6:46 PM [Reply to this]

	Sabrina Phillips	Oh really, Harry? That's why I put up with Eurodance telling my husband "I would love to put a bullet in your head"   Posted by Sabrina Phillips on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 6:47 PM [Reply to this]

	HARRY FOX	That's why   Sabrina Phillips on  February 15 You said nothing about that at the time? Not a word?   Posted by HARRY FOX on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:23 AM [Reply to this]

Rae

..The US has a ballooning debt of 800 billion $'s owed to CHINA... are you willing to invite China to come here and take over because we can't afford to pay them back? Where is the money coming from to support an assault on Iran?  I just find it strange that Republicans don't want to continue to pay taxes and have government to tell them what to do but, you are willing to have your wages go to supporting war in other countries. How many countries do you expect the USA to take over?  Your blog sounds like Pinky and the Brain episode.   Posted by Rae on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:19 AM [Reply to this]