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Stacy

I would add:

A racist always defends his/her beliefs by naming how many people of that race he is related to or knows and states "they" don't consider him/her a racist!!!!

Posted by Stacy on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 7:13 PM

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Princess Pele

Stacy -- are you serious???

You mean the oh so brave and NOT cowardly Republicans have deleted their racist comments on a blog and claim that their very public posts, which are show in SCREEN SHOT here were PRIVATE?

After raking so many people over the coals for COWARDICE?????????

You mean to say they are hypocrites of the first order? Say it ain't so! I had no idea!

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:00 PM

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Karlie

Karlie Mason

Posted by Karlie on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:51 PM

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Princess Pele

Troll of a different color!

Soon we shall be subjected to Harry Fox wanna-be screen shots with red pen underlines!

Karlie: late to the party as usual. The other trolls beat you to it long ago!

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:08 PM

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Karlie

Karlie Mason

Troll of a different color!

Don't be racist.

Posted by Karlie on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:32 PM

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Princess Pele

That was funny!

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:35 PM

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Mosey (Poetry Page)

You took a private conversation and are blaring it out there. Lets see I will go to the archives and look up what the lbierals were saying about Bush...If you want to talk racism lets talk racism.The blacks hated this man. My response to this article was in response to the panthers saying they hated all white people(crackers) and will kill their babies...their blue eyed babies this does not bother you? This does not bother the black people who are not in this category. I can take this and get an attorney, I do have the money, what you are doing since this was not written to you, invading privacy...I am dead serious. I will do it starting Monday. This is invasion of privacy I gave you no permission to re-post any comments I made. If you do not think I know what I am talking about I have two attorneys I already contacted in my family....No threat...just letting you know Stacy. If I wrote this to you it would be a different story.

Posted by Mosey (Poetry Page) on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:09 PM

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†ravler™®

Posting a comment on an open internet blog is not considered private. Claiming that someone making a screen-shot of such comments to be an "invasion of privacy" is ludicrous.

At best you could attempt to claim copyright infringement. Proving that the use of your comment resulted in a loss of income or that money was being made by the usage of your comment would be your burden.

If you don't like being called out as a racist don't make racist comments on public blogs.

Posted by †ravler™® on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:06 AM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

"This is invasion of privacy"

When you post a comment on a blog set to "public" which is what Hardcase had his blog set on. It is not private.

Public and private are opposites.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:12 PM

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MooseHammer

Moose Hammer

I really hope you don't have to take this matter before a black judge. Your comment might not go over so well.

Or would they be too busy shuffling around and being lazy to ever get to your case? Ha ha ha!

Posted by MooseHammer on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:21 PM

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Harry Fox

I have two attorneys I already contacted in my family....No threat...just letting you know Stacy. If I wrote this to you it would be a different story.

Posted by Mosey (Poetry Page) on July 18

Give her a pacifier. No-one stole this comment from your bedroom. You went public with this.Bring your attorney.You'll need one should stacy decide to sue you for inciting racial hatred.

Posted by Harry Fox on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:53 PM

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Karlie

Karlie Mason

The blacks hated this man.

You're really good at exemplifying racism!

Posted by Karlie on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:49 PM

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Stacy

On second thought....

You go on a public blog and disparage every single black person by calling them lazy, stupid welfare recipients and in the same breath blame them for the death of thousands of white babies and have the balls to show up here in defense of yourself and YOUR reputation! You are a despicable person and a coward. Now, call your attorney's with that and stay the hell of my blog!

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:14 PM

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Frank SS

^^^shuffle off to buffalo^^^

Posted by Frank SS on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:06 PM

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Stacy

Do it. You posted that comment on a public blog. There was no private conversation, as a matter of fact there was NO conversation. I will not be bullied into doing a damn thing. I'm sure this will all disappear because you will report it, that's fine, I would too. You didn't post that blog in response to anything but a picture of President Obama campaigning in front of what you thought was a disrepectful presidential seal. There is no defending your comment, you cannot back track. Just letting you know......

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 8:45 PM

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MooseHammer

Moose Hammer

There's also this little bit in the MS user agreement.

8. Content/Activity Prohibited. The following are examples of the kind of Content that is illegal or prohibited to post on, through or in connection with the MySpace Services. MySpace reserves the right to investigate and take appropriate legal action against anyone who, in MySpace's sole discretion, violates this provision, including, without limitation, removing the offending Content from the MySpace Services, terminating the Membership of such violators and/or reporting such Content or activities to law enforcement authorities. Prohibited Content includes, but is not limited to, Content that, in the sole discretion of MySpace:

8.1 is patently offensive or promotes or otherwise incites racism, bigotry, hatred or physical harm of any kind against any group or individual.

The very first one on the list. Inciting racism.

Posted by MooseHammer on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:14 PM

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Red

Good for you Stacy!

Posted by Red on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:40 PM

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"Hardcase"

Bill Gillen

Anytime you place on race ahead of another...it is racism. Jesse Jackson proudly proclaims he is a racist...because he says he supports the black race over all others. Obama has done the same thing. Allowing the Black Panthers with night sticks to stand in front of polling places and not allowing those BP's to be prosecuted.

It is you that is racist Stacy. You think minorities cannot get anywhere in life without wine & cheese Liberals like yourself giving them help...as you look down your nose at them. You perpetuate racism with your race-baiting.

And you are a My Space bully...you take too much pleasure and enjoyment in singling people out and picking on them that have made innocent mistakes with how they express their views and opinions.

That is why decent people on My Space are slowing having nothing to do with you. You know nothing about Ms Mari, and single her out like this...but we all know who you are Stacy.

I am ashamed that you are from Arizona...you make me sick.

Posted by "Hardcase" on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:50 PM

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ஐkealeyஐ

I am ashamed of Arizona. I had no idea all this time such ignorance festered there. Way beyond ordinary run-of-the-mill stupidity. Way to go AZ!

Posted by ஐkealeyஐ on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:05 PM

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Harry Fox

And you are a My Space bully...you take too much pleasure and enjoyment in singling people out and picking on them that have made innocent mistakes with how they express their views and opinions.

Posted by "Hardcase" on July 17

Come on bill, don't try and make her the victim. It wasn't a mistake was it. She deliberately typed that out. No race is lazier than another.

Posted by Harry Fox on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:50 PM

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Stacy

Oh look, you have the right to speak here, strange how that works. Tell me, didn't the comment I posted above come from your blog? Where is it now? When you saw it did you address it? I thought not.

I know you will never realize this but the things you say and what you believe are racist, Bill. Did you read the list above? I could apply many of those qualities just to this comment. Tell us one more time how Obama is not black and we had our first black president before George Washington.

Again, glad to see you here. You are not blocked nor will I delete your comments because I am now a coward.

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:57 PM

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Clara B Ray ~Creative Writer

Clara B Ray

Stacy, Thank you so much for sharing this. I had not seen or read it, and if I had read the example above I would not have subscribed to read her poetry. I am offended at the loose usage of words deeming Blacks being racists, stupid, lazy ass people. None of those apply to me, and I am a Black person who supported Obama. Of course I shall remove my subscription, although the poetry written is quite beautiful. Thanks again.

Clara

Posted by Clara B Ray ~Creative Writer on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 3:07 PM

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Stacy

Thanks for commenting...

When I read that comment, I was speechless to tell truth. We see, read and hear a lot about racism everywhere these days with many shouting that racism either does not exist or isn't a factor in our politics or lives. It's rare to see anybody be bold with these days like the comment above but the more subtle forms like what is listed above is all to common. I'm glad you were able to see through her. She should not be heard and her opinions are tainted.

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:01 PM

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Princess Pele

Try not to spit wine on your computer screen when you watch this!!!

I'd like to "refudiate" stupid Republicans who butcher the language while lying through their teeth!!!!

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:43 PM

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Princess Pele

Do you like the way she pronounces "divisive????"

Republicans have NOTHING TO DO WITH CREATING THE DIVISSHION IN OUR COUNTRY....

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:45 PM

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Mosey (Poetry Page)

If you think Stacy that you do not have a racist bone in your body your are nothing but a liar. You are against your own race...You are white are you not? Now get me for that. What are you some kind of a judge and jury here....No freedom of speech? What do these fans of yours think of the Panthers wanting to kill all the whites and the "cracker Babies" Dont respond to that do you. How about the slurs Bush got from the liberals...Hear about this? What say you on this. What say the Poet who is African American say about her race saying these things? Come on I could get some other people on here but quite frankly I am so dumb founded on all the whites who do not stick up for their race. It is not racist to critize another race my dear. I called no one the N word. Not like the Panthers were screaming which you and all the liberals turn a deaf ear to. Lets see what happens Aug 28th. One side is equipped with clubs and guns the other side is not. How about the clubs used in the voting facilities? No word from your little mouth on that. You are one way stacy You are one way. And it is not good. If I called somone lazy,it is not a slur. It is not racist...Ok I will say some whites are lazy....even it out now?

Posted by Mosey (Poetry Page) on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:25 PM

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Obamalot

Wow, I know you are talking to Stacy, but can I jump in and share a couple of thoughts?

If you think Stacy that you do not have a racist bone in your body your are nothing but a liar. You are against your own race...You are white are you not?

So, if you are white you are opposed to your own race, am I reading that correct?

What are you some kind of a judge and jury here....No freedom of speech?

I fail to see where calling you a racist deprives you of your freedom of speech. From where I'm sitting

it looks like the only thing that is being deprived is your brain, of oxygen.

What do these fans of yours think of the Panthers wanting to kill all the whites and the "cracker Babies"

Shall we take a poll? I'll start off. That's a horrible thing. Although, I read over the blog 3 times and I swear I couldn't find one instance of anyone supporting the Black Panthers racist rant. I'll try one more time.

How about the slurs Bush got from the liberals...Hear about this? What say you on this.

Slurs about Bush? I'm a Liberal, I'm white, I criticized Bush without mercy, but I don't recall any racial slurs about him. Refresh my memory.

What say the Poet who is African American say about her race saying these things?

What say you, what the hell are you even talking about here? Seriously, how's that oxygen coming along?

Come on I could get some other people on here but quite frankly I am so dumb founded on all the whites who do not stick up for their race.

LMAO Ok, yeah, that's not racist at all. I wasn't aware that white people were required to stick up for their own race. In fact, if anyone wants to stick up for a race, might I suggest sticking up for the human race?

It is not racist to critize another race my dear.

If criticizing another race, as a whole, isn't racist, then what the hell is?

I called no one the N word.

What, necrophiliac?

Not like the Panthers were screaming which you and all the liberals turn a deaf ear to. Lets see what happens Aug 28th.

Once again, who are these Liberals who turned a deaf ear to the Panthers?

One side is equipped with clubs and guns the other side is not. How about the clubs used in the voting facilities?

They have clubs now? Do they serve alcohol? I can't rightly go vote, then head off to the club, as convenient as it is, if they don't serve alcohol. It just wouldn't be right.

You are one way stacy You are one way. And it is not good.

One way as opposed to two way, or what? Is she traffic now?

If I called somone lazy,it is not a slur. It is not racist...

Yeah, but the thing is, that you were talking about black people and you said they were lazy.

If I say Streetz is lazy, that's not racist because he's black. I'm only making a character judgment.

Now, if I say all black people are lazy then it's stereotyping a whole race, which is racist.

See how that works or should we draw you a picture?

Ok I will say some whites are lazy....even it out now?

Not even kinda. Now you're just being racist towards white people and we're not gonna give you a free pass just because your white. We Liberals don't do that.

Posted by Obamalot on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:15 PM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

Jim, (obamalot)

"I wasn't aware that white people were required to stick up for their own race."

yet you were right there agreeing with Serendipity in Harrys blog that blacks are supposed to have each others backs, when SS was calling Carl an Uncle Tom for not calling everybody on their use of the N word.

Hypocrite.

Stereotyping is not a bad thing in and of itself. it is more a trust issue or lack thereof.

Take a look at this:

"One theory as to why people stereotype is that it is too difficult to take in all of the complexities of other people as individuals. Even though stereotyping is inexact, it is an efficient way to mentally organize large blocks of information. Categorization is an essential human capability because it enables us to simplify, predict, and organize our world. Once one has sorted and organized everyone into tidy categories, there is a human tendency to avoid processing new or unexpected information about each individual. Assigning general group characteristics to members of that group saves time and satisfies the need to predict the social world in a general sense.

Sociologists believe that mental categorizing (or labelling) is necessary and inescapable. One perspective on how to understand stereotyping process is through the categories or ingroups and outgroups. Ingroups are viewed as normal and superior, and are generally the group that one associates with or aspires to join. An outgroup is simply all the other groups. They are seen as lesser or inferior than the in groups.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype

Before you go and bash my resource, if you challenge me, I will use Mayo clinic or some other professional source to set you straight.

Stereotyping is nothing but not knowing the individualities of a certain group and a trust issue.

Therefore, it is not a purposeful way of harm and is actually a protective trait in self preservation.

Racism however IS harmful:

Main Entry: rac·ism

Pronunciation: ..ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-..

Function: noun

Date: 1933

1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

— rac·ist ..-sist also -shist.. noun or adjective

If I say that black people like watermelon, that is not fitting to saying that I as the white race am superior because blacks like watermelon, therefore, not ALL Stereotypes are racist.

Now if I said "all black people are thieves" that is a prejudice and it IS racist.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:37 PM

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Obamalot

Hypocrite.

No, I didn't do that. I would never have told one race to stand by each other against another. Now your just lying.

Posted by Obamalot on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:13 AM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

Ok, if it wasn't you, it was somebody who is in your little circle of friends.

Serendipity even threatened to "cut" Carl with a knife because he wouldn't agree with her on that point.

I stand corrected (on THIS point).

Nice to see you don't "bow down" to that kind of "hidden bullshit slavery" in itself.

(since when is it the RESPONSIBILITY of any race to totally defend EVERY member of their own race?) That's LUDICROUS.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:39 AM

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Harry Fox

Posted by Mosey (Poetry Page) , July 18

What are you some kind of a judge and jury here.

Like you've just judged black people.Judge not lest ye be judged

No freedom of speech?

You've got it. This stacy excercising hers

What do these fans of yours think of the Panthers wanting to kill all the whites and the "cracker Babies"

I should think we're against that on the whole.

How about the slurs Bush got from the liberals.

Depends if they were racist doesn't it

He's President. That comes with the job. He started a very controversial war, failed to find wmd and ordered people to be tortured. Did you think liberals were going to be sending him flowers?

I am so dumb founded on all the whites who do not stick up for their race.

No we're objecting to you badmouthing another race.You're the one that's making whites look bad here

It is not racist to critize another race

You say that blacks are naturally lazy that is criiticism but it's racist as well

I called no one the N word.

You don't have to to be racist and you know that

Ok I will say some whites are lazy....even it out now?

That is pathetic

Posted by Harry Fox on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:13 PM

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Obamalot

See, this is why I italicize my responses.

Posted by Obamalot on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:25 PM

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Frank SS

^^^Shufflawfulgus^^^Does not speak for all white people!

Posted by Frank SS on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:40 PM

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Erik

Erik TheRed

Anyone who questions the Obama agenda is deemed racist. Thats reverse psychology and malicious mind control tactic 101. Racism was plotted by the wicked elite and demonic network to pit the masses against each other. What people dont understand that is within each race you have White humans and white demons. Back humans and black demons..ect.....so anytime the demonic network/movement wants to start more conflict then they just pull a move which makes a chain reaction of evil take place. A cause and effect. A demon white cop will blow away an unarmed black human and pit the entire black race of a city against all the white people to where if you and me walk down the wrong street without knowing what happened we might just be murdered because we are white because of what evil did to instigate the issue. Happens all the time.

Uneducated parents who cant see the big picture teach their kids a false pretense and bring up their kin to be racist out of their own pettiness, wickedness and lack of intelligence. I dislike no man for the color of his skin, but i question the motives of animal lust and the gay liberation pro-choice organizations of luciferian intent against heterosexuality. I see the jealousy and spite of the poor against the rich and a materialistic society only gunning for their own selfishness and every man for himself. I see racisism rampant in the streets and different races trying to spite each other out of satans jealousy, rage and spite.

Black males wanting to dominate white women out of spite. A new-age ghetto culture of arrogant thug gangsta rapping nursery rhymes that isnt even music founded off the sales of crack cocaine, rip offs, and drive-bys. White kids wanting to be black brainwashed off of petty arrogance from an i got more than you do mentality. Say yo, know what i'z sayin yo, weez got it going down yo.......petty lust, dawg eat dawg backstabbing do your girlfriend when you aint looking lie after lie everywhere you look. Its satans playground and the times got shitty because evil is so ugly that by the time one figures out how ugly evil really is...its too late. Everything breaks down to good and evil. Racism is just another notch on the post of evil.

Posted by Erik on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 1:58 PM

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Obamalot

No insight into own prejudice. It is common for racists to have no insight into their own prejudice. This is because they believe their prejudice to be based upon objective grounds.

Posted by Obamalot on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:42 PM

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Škrabálku o zmrzačení a apatie

I hate everyone equally until they prove I shouldn't hate them...

P.S.

I dated a black girl in junior high and a Puerto rican in high school...

but I started out hating them too...

Liked them briefly,

then strangely hated them again...

What' that make me?

Posted by Škrabálku o zmrzačení a apatie on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 7:19 PM

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"Hardcase"

Bill Gillen

It makes you a piece of shit. Like sending me pictures of my dead parents like you did with ignorant messages attached to them. You are the lowest form of life on My Space. You and Stacy belong together.

Posted by "Hardcase" on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:54 PM

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Stacy

Skrib, could you do me this one favor. Wait to address Bill below, I have some intelligent conversations going on here and don't want this blog to become a train wreck just yet.

It's up to you but he can wait, he is doing all of to do just that....

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:11 PM

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Erik

Erik TheRed

You hate everyone equally - proof that you are a satanist. That makes you a traitor to mankind, for it is evil which distrorts the good and replaces the natural harmony of nature with artificial sewage.

Posted by Erik on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 1:28 PM

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Stacy

Erik is now blocked from my blogs, I don't want spam, racist rants or having him diverting away from my blog content with demon naming....

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 2:11 PM

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Ineffable

There are conservatives - who I frequently disagree with. And then there's Erik - who needs serious psychiatric help.

Posted by Ineffable on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:41 PM

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ஐkealeyஐ

Yeah Erik I've seen around and he really comes off as crazed. I'd like to get something out of his comments, even his POV but damn, all I usually see is really really long copy and paste jobs where he went to some off the charts nutty rush limbaugh's not-so-deep thoughts type website and just copied loads of someone else's words and then pasted it on blogs.

We all know how to google, Erik.

Posted by ஐkealeyஐ on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:19 PM

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Ineffable

but it goes beyond that, with blogs about how myspace trolls are agents of the illuminati, or the claim that anyone who doesn't share his worldview is a satanist...

Posted by Ineffable on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:28 AM

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Bandwagon Libertarian

Omar Little

It's a wonder why people let him post comments on blogs.

Good for you....

and you should cite some of Bonnie's comments. She's a proud racist.

Good blog.

Posted by Bandwagon Libertarian on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:52 PM

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Harry Fox

some of Bonnie's comments. She's a proud racist.

Posted by Bandwagon Libertarian on July 18

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=542917579&blogId=537237902

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=542917579&blogId=537238016

Posted by Harry Fox on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:37 PM

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Obamalot

Bonnie is an oddity that requires an entire blog to discuss. She is seriously damaged.

Posted by Obamalot on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:30 PM

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Stacy

Maybe next blog

I was going to respond to Mosey up there but you and Harry did such a great job I didn't have too!!! Thanks lol

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:51 PM

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Obamalot

She's too easy.

Posted by Obamalot on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:06 PM

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Ineffable

" She's too easy."

Yeah, that. Besides, if you post anything negative about Bonnie, it just means that you are a godless muslim-lovin' terrorist-supportin' anti-American liberal.

It is rather amusing to watch her and her friends use their faulty logic to attempt to attack those who disagree, but... if she and her ilk came to my blog, I might actually ban her (and I put up with occasionally being trolled by ASTROCHRONIC, so that's really saying something)

Save yourself the trouble - in fact, as amusing as this discussion is, might I suggest you don't specifically reference myspace bloggers in the future? It'll all just lead to this sort of weirdness. It always does.

I wonder how many blogs attacking you are being written right now...

Posted by Ineffable on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:39 AM

Princess Pele

Thank GOD!

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:11 PM

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Mr. Erik's first post is a truly disturbing view of his mind. Thanks for not removing it because I believe it is very relevant to your topic. He has made a rather strange assertion that I never saw before, particularly from religio-racists: the delusion that demons are of similar race names as human "blacks and whites". I have never encountered that idea. It relies first on taking the Bible ONLY literally. All metaphors are destroyed, even parables. Secondly the dozens of language translations involved in constructing a modern Bible in English are ignored. Adam, from the dirt, literally meant dirt. White translators chose red because they viewed themselves as red blooded. We are actually blue blooded.

Religion is the source of most USA racist views, particularly views of white supremacy. The often twisted Bible verses were used to enact racist law in the USA. You probably are aware of which parts of the Bible form the core of religio-racist dogma.

Religio-racism is indeed the primary tactic of political powers. Not demons. People. Even literalist dogma individuals do not go to the extreme of racially profiling metaphors like demons. I never saw that done until now. Probably because the standard dogma of religio-racism points at Noah having 3 sons whose wives are proposed to represent the supposed 3 races and then later the supposed African becomes cursed for being sexually "deviant". This USA regional delusion of religio racism played out in the super negative reaction against inter-racial relations between black men and white women.

The idea that demons are of races similar to humans is, in my opinion, a new innovation. When metaphors became racially diverse as human, god talks to George Bush as well. Fitting.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 4:34 PM

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Slick

Slick Dawgmamma

That would make you a hypocrite considering that you called someone else a butthead which actually is a slogan from a 13yr old. Another definition of butthead would be an asshole, which, to me, seems a little more profane than calling someone a demon. So what you are insinuating is that you are punishing Erik for showing that there are evil people(demons) and good people(humans), and maybe not in every case will an evil person be a demon, but i would have to say that Erik is correct and that there are many demon people out there causing much mayhem and pain. What Erik wrote here is not racist, but if you cannot even comprehend the depth of the subject in which you post then who gives you the right to block someone that was not even mocking you, but instead went pretty deep into the subject matter. If the new generation is brainwashed to believe that everything said is racism then you basically are a product of mind control conditioning. Do you know the difference between good and evil Stacy ?

Posted by Slick on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 2:26 PM

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Stratus Blue

Are you implying Erik did not mean demon literally, as in demon possession?

And how can a person quantify insults against someone else's perception of the insults. You think Demon is less insulting than butt-head? I would ask to whom? At least you admit it is insulting.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:27 PM

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Stratus Blue

Scape goated metaphors do not show up for court dates. You will be there alone to answer for your actions. The devil did not make you do it.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:20 PM

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"Hardcase"

Bill Gillen

She won't answer you...because you've hit the nail on the head.

Posted by "Hardcase" on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:55 PM

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Stratus Blue

Methinks they protest too much. What in the world has caused this response to a blog about racism?

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:21 PM

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Stacy

I wont get into a screaming match with lunatics. I'm not here to fight good and evil I am here to speak about racism, what it is and how it affects our lives and politics. Erik's rant is most certainly racist and I am not a hypocrite but bantering in jest about 13 year old boys. If your sole purpose here is to defend Erik or want to get into a broader discussion about demons do not come back. I am uninterested.

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:06 PM

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Princess Pele

I don't know how you stomach any of these so-called people and their "Christian" comments.

<<< putrid racists

[My new health insurance doesn't cover ]

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:15 PM

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Stacy

I don't stomach them well at all but what better way is there to make my point then to have them show up to prove it?

I wont allow it all to go on very long and I'll try to keep this blog from becoming to much of a train wreck but anybody who isn't to the extreme right needs to know this stuff is going on.

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:18 PM

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Princess Pele

I love it Stacy.

I never read this stuff unless it's on a blog I actually read and respect -- so, it's good for me to be reminded of this mentality, too.

I totally support your decisions and methods!!!!

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:32 PM

US Army Veteran

Troy Spurlock

Slick is right Stacy, sorry to say. What Erik was saying was the truth...he just used more colorful language to illustrate his point(s) that both whites and blacks can be racists not only towards one another, but against their own just the same.

Clarence Thomas, the first black man placed on the US Supreme Court has been called an 'Uncle Tom' by a lot of blacks.

Blacks use the (in)famous race card whenever it suits them to get away with things that any other person would not. Take, for example, Crystal Magnum who accused the Duke Lacrosse team (to include the black player(s)) of gang raping her (which was later whittled down to three specific white boys). She lied, had a criminal record, was a known prostitute, and had no credibility; but because she was black everyone found the players guilty in the court of public opinion BECAUSE OF the black community believing the tripe being spewed forth by the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the New Black Panthers. None of whom had the integrity to publicly acknowledge Magnum's guilt in criminally accusing innocent people of a most heinous crime, let alone apologize to the three boys beaten down through the courts, media and the university they attended. Worst part of this factual event is that Jesse Jackson REWARDED her illicit behavior by paying her tuition, and she never faced any criminal charges for what she did.

During the Bush elections blacks accused polsters in Florida of denying them their right to vote at certain polling stations. A huge criminal investigation was done; but when members of the New Black Panther party do it - and in full military garb no less - under Obama's Administration the DOJ was told to drop the case. Why? Because they were black? More likely than not...given recent news and current investigations into the matter. The whistleblower from the DOJ who worked the case is quite telling.

Then there's the issue of reverse discrimination where blacks are being hired and promoted over that of more than qualified whites and/or Hispanics. You can find plenty of factual examples recounted here: http://www.adversity.net.

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton use racism and the race card in order to further their own personal agendas at the expense of the very people they claim to protect.

Obama is associated with some pretty racist people...namely his pastor of more than two decades...not to mention his Chicago connections.

People in general, white and black, are tired of the political correctness and want the truth to be told. Why else do you think Bill Cosby came out and spoke openly about the excuses blacks have made over the past 40+ years for remaining on welfare, allowing the single motherhood syndrome to prevail, and black men excusing their crimes on white racism.

You really need to educate yourself more on this topic, and be more open to others opinions, like Eriks. Shutting them out when they say things you don't like, especially when they're not even directed at you, only shows how closed minded you are and that you are not really serious about discussing the issue at hand.

I suggest you take a peak at the following:

'Jews&Blacks: A Dialogue on Race, Religion, and Culture in America' by Michael Lerner and Cornel West

'Shakedown: Exposing the real Jesse Jackson' by Kenneth Timmerman

'The End of Racism' by Dinesh D'Souza

'Stupid Black Men: How to Play the Race Card - and Lose' by Larry Elder

'Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America' by John McWhorter

'A Country of Strangers: Blacks and Whites in America' by David Shipler

'Until Proven Innocent: Political Correctness and The Shameful Injustices of The Duke Lacrosse Rape Case' by Stuart Taylor Jr and KC Johnson

T.S

Posted by US Army Veteran on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:45 PM

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Stratus Blue

You just implied Erik was right in asserting that every race has racist individuals, TO INFER wrongly that Stacy disagreed with that assertion. Read the comments. I did. Erik got removed for rudeness associated to his religio-fundamentalist extreme, world view? Even his demons have races now. I expect him to converse with the neighbor's dog next.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:42 PM

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Obamalot

Even his demons have races now.

Posted by Obamalot on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:34 PM

US Army Veteran

Troy Spurlock

Every race amongst us humans does have racist individuals...and to argue otherwise is just plain asinine at best, ignorant at worst.

Erik was not rude, just colorful in the the words that he chose to use. Just because you associate them to religion or his alleged religious beliefs (I don't know him, which doesn't matter, I read the content of his message for what it was within the topic addressed in this blog and left him, the person, out of it - which neither of you seem to be capable of doing), doesn't alter or change the relevancy of the underlining point that he was trying to convey.

Your last statement regarding him conversing with the neighbor's dog was an ad hominem argument - i.e. a fallacious assertion against the person rather than addressing the content of his posting.

Posted by US Army Veteran on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:04 PM

Stacy

Erik is not right but I wont argue your points because they are not valid. Erik stays blocked but I'll allow your comment to stand.

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:14 PM

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Stacy

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

Be disappointed, I never said that racism does not exist within every race. I deplore racism of any kind. What I don't agree with is the mentality of "I know I am but so are you" argument". My list above doesn't even include the words black or white. None of what you have written has made an impact on this blog, in my opinion.

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:55 PM

US Army Veteran

Troy Spurlock

My points are FACTUALLY valid, and claiming otherwise is not a defense...it's a fallacious argument.

Your refusal to even address what I said, claiming their invalid, and that someone else may have the energy to "debate" them exposes the weakness of your own stated position and clear inability to defend it.

I must admit I am rather disappointed Stacy. I gave you perfect factual real life examples of racism on both sides of the fence for you to respond to...and all you could do was wave your had at them and "claim" (i.e. an unproven allegation) they were invalid; and here I thought you were wanting to seriously discuss the subject (since you were so adament about blocking people you thought were diverting from the subject at hand).

T.S.

Posted by US Army Veteran on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:19 PM

Stacy

Maybe someone else will have the energy to debate these issues with you, they are all welcome to.

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:15 PM

Stacy

An 13 year old butt head... like most 13 yr old boys!

Posted by Stacy on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 8:09 PM

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Slick

Slick Dawgmamma

Škrabálku o zmrzačení a apatie

I hate everyone equally until they prove I shouldn't hate them...

P.S.

I dated a black girl in junior high and a Puerto rican in high school...

but I started out hating them too...

Liked them briefly,

then strangely hated them again...

What' that make me?

Stacy

An 13 year old butt head... like most 13 yr old boys!

Erik

Erik TheRed

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It is a known fact that a common quote by satanists is hating everyone equally which is the exact opposite of what the words of God say in the Bible. Where as Erik may be somewhat intense, i can understand his point...our country is in trouble, there is conflict worldwide, and evil is the foundation of it all. My question is how Stacy thinks she is any better than Erik and actually blocked erik when scrabble-q was the one mocking the OP. Just another mishap on myspace i suppose, truth is that Eriks blogs are quite informative, but he is misunderstood because of his intensity and his never ending quest to expose all the demons and evil, so to speak, as we all face the end times in which most people refuse is happening. Because of this Gulf oil gusher i would have to agree with bible prophecy.

Posted by Slick on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 2:47 PM

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Stratus Blue

You ask why she deleted a person's comment that called her a Satanist?

These folks are fake.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 8:52 PM

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Stratus Blue

And for those who are not aware of it...Slickdawgmama is Erik too.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:11 PM

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Stacy

I figured so, which was why they are both blocked.

By the way, Stratus Blue, there isn't a person who comments on my blogs that makes me think more than you do. I always look forward to your contribution. Thanks alot!

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:58 PM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

"as we all face the end times in which most people refuse is happening"

I have confronted Erik before about this very issue and telling him he cannot stop the "end times" because it is Gods will. If he is fighting FOR Gods will, WHY is he having the audacity to think he can somehow STOP God and his plan?

Talk about Hypocrisy mixed with delusions of grandeur.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:05 PM

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Stratus Blue

There is an old ideal called not bearing a false witness. Those who care for such ideals are NOT inclined to call people such things, even metaphors, they can not possibly be certain of.

However, the idea of not bearing false witness was supplemented in Christian revelation that one should love even those who spitefully use them.

The extremists who take the Bible literally are in no position to condemn right or wrong in others, in numerous literal and unmistakeably clear Bible themes. The central theme of the entire New Testament instruction is to be wise in our interaction with unbelievers and gentle as doves.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 4:43 PM

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Škrabálku o zmrzačení a apatie

Wait I'm still a butt head....

Posted by Škrabálku o zmrzačení a apatie on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 2:25 PM

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Slick

Slick Dawgmamma

Pretty serious comeback...maybe she really meant anus face. I mean do you think she pictured the scene as she was writing to you, considering butt head was a sand box slogan back in the Tonka days. I mean she could twist the whole senario around and claim that you are a cigarette butt head which means that you now resemble the back end of a used Phillip Morris filter.

Posted by Slick on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 2:53 PM

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Stratus Blue

I believe these religious extremists on MYSPACE are fakes. NOBODY does more harm to any and every faith than these extremist fakes. They seek to drive a wedge between genuinely religious people AND drive away from all faiths everyone in search of faith-based answers.

Ironic that the supposed faith they shout over everyone about is that faith which constantly admonishes its followers to NOT OFFEND THOSE WHO ARE YOUNG IN THE FAITH. It would be better to tie a rock around your neck and throw yourself into the sea, than to offend these (spiritually) little ones.

That is why I KNOW they are fake. Along with literally hundreds of other scriptural examples.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:50 PM

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Stacy

Slick is now blocked.... I will not allow Erik or anybody distract from this blog topic. Please move on to Sabrina's blog.

If anybody has an issue with me blocking either, let me know here.

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:09 PM

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Darlene

You didn't like the girls??????

Posted by Darlene on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 7:31 PM

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Škrabálku o zmrzačení a apatie

Not after getting dumped I didn't... See look what they missed out on.... I'm awesome now!

Posted by Škrabálku o zmrzačení a apatie on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 2:26 PM

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Erik

Erik TheRed

You're a legend in your own mind and a professional rectum sniffer. I'll Federal Express you a glow in the dark Winnie the Pooh pentagram so you wont get lost in the woods on your next coven meeting gang banger field trip extravaganza sponsered by the pro-choice gay liberation fascilitation of the morbidly derranged.

65.GIF

Posted by Erik on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 1:35 PM

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Stratus Blue

Do not offend the unbelievers. Ring a bell?

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 4:45 PM

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Princess Pele

I consider people that use the n-word to be racists. I consider black people that scorn me to be racists. I consider SB1070 a racist law.

I think racism is negatively viewing someone else or hating someone else because of SKIN COLOR.

Gender biogotry is the most related, in that it is about BIOLOGY - something you cannot change. (Well, I guess now you can. But you know what I mean.)

Religious and ideological bigotry is the most murky, because of all the assumptions made about people. And sometimes they look "different" and sometimes they don't.

Posted by Princess Pele on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 7:25 PM

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Brown Eyed Girl

Brown Eyes

My personal pet peeve is when people politely say the N-word, as opposed to just saying nigger, this drives me nuts. I am black. The "N-word" (not just saying nigger) came to my attention during the O.J. trial. Johnny Cochran said from the beginning that the glove was planted and by the police. When Mark Fruman had to testify and it came to light he requested disability due to stress and noted the high-percentage of Blacks the LAPD arrests as part of his stress related conditions. Then the female screenwriter came up with tapes she had from Furman recounting his career and he was constantly saying, nigger-this, that nigger, those niggers, a nigger, and so on and so on. Many believe that heavily swayed the heavily black jury to acquittal. So Darden in his closing statement accused Cochran of playing the race card and talked abut his witness (the woman with the Fruman tapes) and the use of "The N-word" and how the word has the power to hurt Blacks emotionally and leave us feeling powerless and so on.

Racism is horrible and hurts in real ways--job rejection, no promotion because of color, and in emotional ways the pain you feel when you are in the group that an act is targeted against, despite you not being in the incident. However when Darden went on about how the N-word can emotionally devastate Blacks still so much today and make us "loose" our minds and just hearing it causes us to become unable to think "rationally"--as in by acquitting someone thought guilty by most, was offensive to me as a Black person. It implies we are so "weak" you have to go out of your way not to "hurt" us--so never say nigger, even if you are a TV anchor reporting the fact that a white person called a Black congressman a nigger during one of the health care town halls. So the anchor goes on TV and says the congressman was called the N-word at a town hall. That is simply absurd. Hitler was an depraved person, a racist, who perpetuated what we call the Holocaust. A long time ago, yet the memory of it is deeply painful to Jews, even those not born or were in America, or elsewhere at the time. Yet no one protects the emotions of Jews by calling the Holocaust the H-word. Do you doubt that if they did a majority of Jews would rage that you were diminishing the horror of the Holocaust by calling it the H-word? And that using H-word parodied them and was antisemitic? I have no doubt they would. I think more Blacks ought to take this attitude and I feel patronized when people say the N-word. I do not like the word nigger, which is why I avoid most Gangsta-Rap and feel those guys are demeaning themselves and our people when they constantly say it for no reason.. Went off track, too long:)

Posted by Brown Eyed Girl on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 12:50 AM

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The Unsinkable Showstopper

Show Stopper

Posted by The Unsinkable Showstopper on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:54 PM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

So you thought OJ was innocent right?

Mark Fuhrman was railroaded because the words used were in the context of a play he was writing and he was reciting dialogue. He has proven to be a great criminal justice person, while OJ is now in prison.

Who got the last laugh?

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:34 AM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

Careful Michael, Showstopper will deem you a racist.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:45 PM

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Stacy

What is your point?

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:10 PM

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The Unsinkable Showstopper

Show Stopper

Mark Fuhrman seem to more pissoff with kfc than O.J Simpson

Posted by The Unsinkable Showstopper on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:37 PM

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The Unsinkable Showstopper

Show Stopper

Posted by The Unsinkable Showstopper on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:44 PM

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Princess Pele

I'm glad you did.

When I read it, I felt the emotion that you must feel about that horrifying word. It actually horrifies me, too and I am white. White cracker, white trash, just don't have the same effect. And I don't think Holocaust does either.

I didn't mention much about Jewish "racism" because to me it is not about race as much as religion. Though if someone "looks" Jewish I guess you could make an argument for it.

"Looks." That is just the problem, LOOKS. Way over-rated.

Love you Brown Eyed Girl. This world is changing but not fast enough as far as I am concerned.

Posted by Princess Pele on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 7:14 AM

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Erik

Erik TheRed

Yeah, pretty soon it will be a complete demoralized hell on earth, just the way lucifer planned it. Glad you are helping the demonization.

*golf clap*

Payback's a bitch to those who justify sin and try to make evil good.

Posted by Erik on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 1:38 PM

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The Unsinkable Showstopper

Show Stopper

Posted by The Unsinkable Showstopper on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:49 PM

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Stratus Blue

Saul. BEFORE the vision on the road.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:52 PM

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Princess Pele

Judge not .... that's God's job, shirtless dude.

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:30 PM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:09 PM

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Princess Pele

Oops, and you're right, most of the time people try to hide it or pretend they are something they aren't by pointing a finger and saying - NO I'm not - YOU are!

Just read Tex Shelters' latest blog and you'll notice a comment there saying it is "Liberals" who are the racist ones while Republicans are color blind.

Yeah, that guy driving the bus with Rose Parks was color blind, too. And yeah, that guy was probably a Democrat, because the Democratic party didn't "change" into the bleeding heart Liberal Love Everybody party until Lynden Johnson's civil rights legislation passed after 1963 or so.

Posted by Princess Pele on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 7:39 PM

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Non-Conformist

Sister Golden Hair

Tex shelters must have had a brain fart....he got that back@sswards! Who does he think hes kidding! Lets just see how color blind he is...I'll mosey on over in Texas style and type in colors!....that would explain not being able to read!

Posted by Non-Conformist on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 11:24 PM

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Stacy

Tex said no such thing!!!

Posted by Stacy on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 11:54 PM

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Stacy

I already replied to his comment a while ago lol

Posted by Stacy on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 8:10 PM

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Princess Pele

I just saw that right before I came back here.

Us Liberals always playing the race card.

Posted by Princess Pele on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 8:11 PM

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Stacy

Which is why I posted this...

I thought if we were going to talk about racism, we should know what that is.

Since I get accused of playing the "race card" all the time, I thought I might as well do a blog on racism in general.

I bet you anything I will be accused of it here and I've not called anybody or any group racist in the body of the blog.

Just wait!

Posted by Stacy on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 8:15 PM

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Princess Pele

Republicans are in denial. And along with denial comes projection. Which they will deny and accuse you of. Whee!

Posted by Princess Pele on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 8:21 PM

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CHRISTOPINT

Hi Stacy, some good wisdom here, which is becoming rare. I suppose a lot of this raciest nonsense is a hold over form one of the more contemptible aspects of tribalism; the more hate you have in your heart the more likely your soul will drop down into decay. Why not treat people with a little dignity and respect. It's a good place to start.

Posted by CHRISTOPINT on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 7:34 PM

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Stacy

You are right on.

I found minimizing the plight of those affected by racism quite telling. How often do you hear that slavery is over, the civil right struggle is over it's time to move on? Is that racism? I'd say yes.

Posted by Stacy on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 8:19 PM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

Hello again Stacy,

While 99% of the list is true, I disagree with a few parts that are "extremist" and to actually believe what it says would make somebody a race "baiter"

"Acceptance of racist behavior or conduct. To view "mildly" racist acts as either reasonable or, at least, not racist and to feel that more severely racist acts are wrong but "understandable"

At face value, this is for the MOST part true but there ARE exceptions.

For example, when BL attacked Oshay for attacking HER daughter with the N word, to me, BL had the right to lose her morality at that moment because her child was attacked in a malicious calculated way. (her rape was being made fun of).

As I told Lisarae, if somebody made fun of my daughters rape to my face, I would either kill them or come damn close to it.

"Crime of Passion"/Temp Insanity The use of the N word would be small cookies in comparison.

"For example, confusing race with culture"

Stereotypes are LEARNED knowledge and just because a person may be wrong, it isn't an immoral wrong.

Example:

If I notice a big group of people eating a particular food and they all are bragging about how good it is, and then later I am asked what that particular race of person likes to eat. I will say the food that I noticed them liking as an answer.

That's KNOWLEDGE from Observation, NOT racism.

Stereotyping comes from observation so it is not seriously a bad thing to do.

How many people are going to go down a dark alley if there are nobody but a rough looking biker gang in that alley.

Self preservation is a GOOD reason to stereotype sometimes.

"Failure to recognize impact of racism on the victim. To believe that a victim of racism can be unaltered by racism."

this is true TO A DEGREE.

While I understand that EVERYBODY has feelings, I will NOT accept that somebody in TODAYS world is victimized by talking about what happened with their ancestors.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 7:36 PM

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Stratus Blue

When Pat Robertson stated on TV that Haiti was hit by an earthquake for its people's actions, he hurt me. He made me physically ill.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:57 PM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

Stratus,

"When Pat Robertson stated on TV that Haiti was hit by an earthquake for its people's actions, he hurt me. He made me physically ill."

you are speaking of what happened in a time (currently) that you could DO SOMETHING to help.

You are powerless to help slaves who have been dead for many many years.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:11 PM

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Stratus Blue

Pat Robertson needs mental help.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:14 PM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

True,

I am not a believer that God punishes people "in mass" as he did in the Old Testament.

I just finished a blog not long ago about a sick Preacher named Fred Phelps, who believed that all the US soldiers who were dying was Gods punishment to gays and to the United States for allowing Gays.

I wonder if Pat Robertson is friends with Fred.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:50 PM

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Stacy

I have no idea what happened in the drama with BL and Oshay nor do I even want to address it but I do have huge issues with the rest of your comment.

Of course we are all different and most races have different cultural behaviors and preferences. It's not stereotyping, that's a different animal all together. Let's take white people can't dance, that's a stereotype. Of course it's not true for every white person, probably not even most but it's accepted as a generalization of white people. The stereotype becomes racism when it's used a derogatorily. For example, "I hate going to that club those fucking white people can't dance and I cannot stand being near them or watching them." There is a clear different between stereotyping and racism.. I hope you can follow that.

I'm not annoyed though by your last comment. Who's ancestors are you talking about? I'm assuming and correct me if you're wrong that you are speaking of something like slavery. It's laughable to think that since not one person alive today was a slave so let's forget about it, move on and stop whining. You may be able to say that if slavery was the end of all atrocities brought down on black people, but consider that there are still two generations, at least, alive today that remember Jim Crow laws and saw the civil rights bill passed and we are STILL dealing with these issues today. So, no nobody has moved on and everybody is still affected by everything that has happened between the races since we became a country. To think anything different is not only naive it's irresponsible.

Posted by Stacy on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:24 PM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

Agreed,

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 6:48 PM

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Stacy

OK, I need to get better at editing my comments! I WAS annoyed with your last comment ED...

Posted by Stacy on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:34 PM

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World.B.Free

World B Free

I dont know how many times I will need to repeat this ED. Lisa's child was NOT raped by anybody. She ran off with a boyfriend. I dont know why you insist that she was raped. This is not made it;it is the truth and so many people tell you this. You can try and justify her racist behaviour all you want but everyone knows that she was telling lies then about this incident.

As for your last comment your talking absolute nonsense. As a white male member of a stronger race or ethnicity etc you can never understand how a Jew feels about the holocaust or how black people feel about being called a Nigger or about lynching and slavery. Far better for you to simply say that you are comfortable with racial slurs rather than trying to tell someone how they should feel about things. I would never presume to understand how you or your wife feel abut issues pertaining to your respective races - chefly because I am neither white nor Japanese

Posted by World.B.Free on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 1:57 PM

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Lika Pika

Lika TheLobbyist

I got called a graham cracker. By a Hispanic person. I actually laughed because it was silly.

Posted by Lika Pika on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:18 AM

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BL~Still hates you fucking fucks

Didja Miss me

^^^^^Has no idea what happened to my child, yet here he is spitting out words as if they are truth. Such a shame WBF. I used to have some strange form of respect for you, but now you are starting to sound like that myspace joke slopstopper.

By the way, it is none of your, nor anyone else's business about the private lives of my children. And for the record, if my child or anyone's child for that matter, were in any danger, I would do anything to protect them. Anything. Jail is a small price to pay for a child's safety. And it's amazing how children's services agrees with me, considering one month after I was released from jail for protecting my daughter, they gave me custody of a five week old baby who was in danger living with her drug addicted mother.

Sad that you have become such a fool.

Posted by BL~Still hates you fucking fucks on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:13 PM

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Lika Pika

Lika TheLobbyist

Amen, Lisa. Protecting children, especially your own, there is NOTHING that would be more important, regardless of what is the consequence. I'd gladly give my life for the well-being of my son.

Posted by Lika Pika on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:52 PM

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BL~Still hates you fucking fucks

Didja Miss me

Thank you Lika. It's a shame these idiots dont get it. 108 days in county jail was nothing. I would gladly lay down my life in less then a second for my children. Maybe if some of these assholes with their assumptions actually had children they'd get it.

Posted by BL~Still hates you fucking fucks on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:25 AM

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Lika Pika

Lika TheLobbyist

No shit. Every person that's whined, complained, moaned & groaned ranking on & about you and "the incident" has had no children.

Fact is, whether they believe the sex assault happened or not, there were multiple issues that put your child in danger, and any HALF normal mother would go busting the door down for their child. If you don't, as a mother do something like that, then you suck turdburgers as a mother.

Posted by Lika Pika on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:37 AM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

"one month after I was released from jail for protecting my daughter, they gave me custody of a five week old baby who was in danger living with her drug addicted mother."

I do believe half of MySpace just got OWNED!!!!

The juvenile courts look into a persons past when that person wants custody of a child, That is a KNOWN fact throughout the United States. Not just a State By State issue.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:50 PM

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BL~Still hates you fucking fucks

Didja Miss me

They sure do. Biological parents are made to jump through hoops sometimes, so you can imagine how well deeply they dig for non-biological ones.

And I am happy to say that my little angel is a healthy, happy, thriving bundle of energy now at almost 19 months old. I love her as much as if I gave birth to her myself. She is one of the lucky ones. Not all of the abused and neglected children have such a happy ending. It's disgraceful. Society sickens me.

Posted by BL~Still hates you fucking fucks on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:32 AM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

Streetz,

you can claim until the world ends that BL was lying but i already explained to you why the proof used was bogus.

If you believe a tiny news article that didn't give ANY details, that's your prerogative,

As far as the race thing goes, shall I cry about the English who died in wars in the past centuries when it doesn't affect me?

Stacy makes a point about the segregation and civil rights but slavery is a dead issue.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 6:51 PM

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Obamalot

And you can claim until the end that her child really was raped. Either way, it matters not. The truth is, BL was making racist remarks towards Oshay back in mid-January. That was 3 weeks before Oshay retaliated with that blog in which he made fun of how brave Lisa seems to think she is and mentioned her child.

There was no justification for her starting the attacks against Oshay by throwing out racial slurs, simply because she wanted him to back off of Carl. I still don't know why you can justify her racist ranting as ok because of what happened to her kid, and completely disregard the fact that she had already taken off down the racial road long before his blog was posted in early February.

Posted by Obamalot on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:04 PM

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BL~Still hates you fucking fucks

Didja Miss me

None of you know went on with Oshay and I considering we actually communicated outside of myspace long before we had our falling out. You all seem to forget that he and I were friends for a couple years. I find it amusing that you people seem to be the only ones who still harp on this when Oshay and I squashed our issues months ago. It would seem to a normal person that all of you would benefit from lives outside of your computer.

Maybe if you idiots logged off on occasion you'd have children of your own to worry about. Then again, the world is probably a much better place without your offspring.

Posted by BL~Still hates you fucking fucks on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:12 PM

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Obamalot

I know I got more of these screenshots around here somewhere. Give me some time, I'll find them. In the meantime, here's a portion of that email thread.

Please make note of the date and her references to Oshay as a chimp and a gorilla.

----------------- Original Message -----------------

From: BL loves Harry Fox anyway (511350088)

To: Wolffy (36227938), Chronically Scribbler (onlyscribbler@myspace.com), ~Princess Bitch~ (158387677), KellyJo (kellyjoshilo@myspace.com), Mayet (Team Jacob) (mayet666@myspace.com), ~MnM~ (375006102), MikeyNLinda (canine11@myspace.com), pawlee teh king of teh trullz (kingofrawk@myspace.com), Belladonna Badass~Patron Saint of Misbehaviour~ (424074102), EricBrooks.Com® (477688866), DIRTY SALLY (511167127), Killed Jack Frost (512855308)

Date: Jan 16, 2010 12:57 AM

Subject: RE: New Thread

Patience Sally. It will make it's appearance. And Oshay will cry like the bitch he is.

Here's the latest. I hope someone is saving this shit. This will make for many lulz on future blogs.

BL lov…Pink Heels

Just now

To: OSHAY DUKE JACKSON JR!

This is myspace douche.

Why do you think I give a fuck what people here think.

And on a side note, people hate you too. Even people you think are your friends.

Do what you've gotta do gorilla.

I'll still be here long after you're gone.

OSHAY … Online Now!

3:39 AM

To: BL loves Harry Fox anyway

Bad Lisa....I would love nothing more to destroy u. If a war is what you want, thats what you'll get. I've owned everything and every blogger. Your just another token on a niggas trophy case. Trust me...you will suffer..severely and emotionally after I am done with you and I promise you your life will never be the same. Some people really really really dont like u...and ur taking a big ass risk.

----------------- Original Message -----------------

From: DIRTY SALLY (511167127)

To: Wolffy (36227938), Chronically Scribbler (onlyscribbler@myspace.com), ~Princess Bitch~ (158387677), KellyJo (kellyjoshilo@myspace.com), Mayet (Team Jacob) (mayet666@myspace.com), ~MnM~ (375006102), MikeyNLinda (canine11@myspace.com), pawlee teh king of teh trullz (kingofrawk@myspace.com), Belladonna Badass~Patron Saint of Misbehaviour~ (424074102), EricBrooks.Com® (477688866), BL loves Harry Fox anyway (511350088), Killed Jack Frost (512855308)

Date: Jan 16, 2010 3:40 AM

Subject: RE: New Thread

youve been taunting me about having that pic for fuckin years Lisa...

now be nice to me because you know I`ve got that X-rated screenshot from the private little session we were having the other night....

----------------- Original Message -----------------

From: BL loves Harry Fox anyway (511350088)

Date: Jan 16, 2010 12:38 AM

Subject: RE: New Thread

Dont get too excited Sally. It aint all that. Harry's is bigger even!

He's starting to sound like he's running out of steam now...damn I always break my toys so fast.

BL lov…Pink Heels

Just now

To: OSHAY DUKE JACKSON JR!

I can say what I want on a public blog. You're just a pussy that likes to play tough guy.

Now bring on this war chimp. We can use the lulz around here.

OSHAY … Online Now!

3:34 AM

To: BL loves Harry Fox anyway

Who cares about blogging anymore Bad Lisa? I killed blogging when I did it. Who gives a shit. I blog every 5 to 6 months now. I was one of the best when I was on top so who gives shit. Your problem is, you think you can run over everybody but you cant. You need to stay out of people's business and thats your fucking problem. Obviously, when you learn that, you might be ok in life.

BL lov…Pink Heels

5 Min ago

To: OSHAY DUKE JACKSON JR!

Go for it.

Everyone here already knows all there is to know. It's all been done before.

Just like your boring ass blogs.

OSHAY … Online Now!

3:30 AM

To: BL loves Harry Fox anyway

Bad lisa..u dont want to start showing pics babe. I got some stuff about u that could really make u look bad because u have so many enemies. I dont want to really ruin u like that....but I would...so im warning u already!

----------------- Original Message -----------------

From: DIRTY SALLY (511167127)

To: Wolffy (36227938), Chronically Scribbler (onlyscribbler@myspace.com), ~Princess Bitch~ (158387677), KellyJo (kellyjoshilo@myspace.com), Mayet (Team Jacob) (mayet666@myspace.com), ~MnM~ (375006102), MikeyNLinda (canine11@myspace.com), pawlee teh king of teh trullz (kingofrawk@myspace.com), Belladonna Badass~Patron Saint of Misbehaviour~ (424074102), EricBrooks.Com® (477688866), BL loves Harry Fox anyway (511350088), Killed Jack Frost (512855308)

Date: Jan 16, 2010 3:35 AM

Subject: RE: New Thread

OMFG Easter has come early....

I get to see the Oshay pecker pic!!!!

----------------- Original Message -----------------

From: BL loves Harry Fox anyway (511350088)

Date: Jan 16, 2010 12:33 AM

Subject: RE: New Thread

LMAO!!! Now here come the threats! So fucking predictable. When are these fuckers going to learn.

BL lov…Pink Heels

Just now

To: OSHAY DUKE JACKSON JR!

Go for it.

Everyone here already knows all there is to know. It's all been done before.

Just like your boring ass blogs.

OSHAY … Online Now!

3:30 AM

To: BL loves Harry Fox anyway

NOw, check out the date on the blog that Oshay posted:

That's proof that at least some of the racial slurs had already started long before that blog. I'll dig for some more screenshots tomorrow. I know how much you love screenshots. Muah!

Posted by Obamalot on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:08 AM

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BL~Still hates you fucking fucks

Didja Miss me

Oh blah, blah, blah. Shove your screen shots up your ass. Old news, one incident, get over yourself. Besides I'm sure your ass could use the action you lonely little social reject.

Posted by BL~Still hates you fucking fucks on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:34 AM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

BL is a bad person...thus, anything she says is open to skepticism. She has made wild accusations and lies about other people and has tried to "dig" information to defame them. Thus, any claim made by her is nearly instantly dismissed. Her pity party is diminished.

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:36 AM

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BL~Still hates you fucking fucks

Didja Miss me

Shut up you cretin. With your history of perversions, your opinions of people mean less then nothing.

Posted by BL~Still hates you fucking fucks on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:17 PM

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Obamalot

Shut up you cretin. With your history of perversions, your opinions of people mean less then nothing.

Here's you a mirror, Lisa. You might wanna check that out.

Dresser Mirror Pictures, Images and Photos

Posted by Obamalot on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:58 PM

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BL~Still hates you fucking fucks

Didja Miss me

Blow me you emo little fuck. Nobody gives a shit what you have to say either.

Posted by BL~Still hates you fucking fucks on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:16 PM

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Christina Wilpers

And this right there above me Stacy is why I really dont like to share my opinions. Are those people for real?

Posted by Christina Wilpers on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:31 AM

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Obamalot

I seem to recall that we've already this discussion and you know I wouldn't blow you.

Why would that be? Go ahead and say it. NO, it's not because I fear getting an std from you...

Posted by Obamalot on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:36 PM

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BL~Still hates you fucking fucks

Didja Miss me

Ummm, is it because you're too busy blowing gobstopper?

Posted by BL~Still hates you fucking fucks on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:35 AM

Stacy

Your last paragraph is right on, WBF!

Posted by Stacy on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:25 PM

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Non-Conformist

Sister Golden Hair

Man....Stacy I have witnessed racism and have racist people in my family....even clients I love dearly! Its really getting old..........and what happened to the "Erase the Hate" commercials??????

OHHHH and let me tell you my biggest pet peeve is when a clearly racist right wonder uses MLK for their defense of their actions thinking it clears them of the hateful racist remarks made!

Sad thing to some just don't know they are being racist or repeating a racist remark!!!

Awesome blog ...LIVE,LAUGH,LOVE...K!

Posted by Non-Conformist on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 11:16 PM

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Stacy

You and I probably have similar experiences with racism in our lives, families and friends. You hear of people being accused of playing a race card or telling others to get over it blah blah blah but you and I probably see and hear it more openly than any people of a different race as do all white people even if they refuse to admit it.

I heard racist comments from people around me on a regular basis. Whether I'm driving with a group of people and a Mexican woman cuts off whoever is driving, or any time my in-laws talk about President Obama, or when I'm talking to people about Arizona's new illegal immigration law, it's consistant. I've heard older white people call Martin Luther King Jr. a communist womanizing black person (of course they don't say "black person"") who was not fighting for civil rights but for some other self serving reason and that is only MLK Jr, you can imagine what they say about more radical civil rights activists like Malcolm X. A regular long ago told me one time that my mother-in-law accidentally bought stamps paying tribute to MLK Jr and he made her wet a sponge when he used him because he refused to lick them. I even heard a story once about a cousin who brought a black friend home from school in the 60's and when my cousin asked for water while they were playing outside, the parent told them they needed to drink out of a hose and later told the boy it was because his friend was not allowed in the house because he was black.

So, when I get called all of these names or accused to suffering from white guilt, I do not even consider the argument. I know first hand it's alive and well and I knew it well before our now President was elected.

Hardcase loves to say he worships and respects MLK Jr, I'd love to hear how he feels about other activists from that time...

So, let them try to pretend none of this exists on the stump or on television, you and I KNOW differently...

Posted by Stacy on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:04 PM

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Škrabálku o zmrzačení a apatie

Wait...

You and I probably have similar experiences with racism in our lives,

read my above statements...

I grew up in the rural south, ya'll missed the implied downside to my early relationships...

Posted by Škrabálku o zmrzačení a apatie on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:36 AM

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Stacy

I have no doubt we have shared similar experiences with this stuff! It's not even relegated to the south, I grew up in California and Arizona.

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:12 PM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

Skribbler, if truth be told, you probably dated them to be "rebellious" and "in your face" and "piss off that older generation."

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:37 AM

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Brown Eyed Girl

Brown Eyes

Does one of your list include the use of "code-words" as proof of one being a racist.? Damn near every black person in America hated Ronald Regan with a passion. And were damn near driven to insanity by the "majority" who worshiped him. Including those who were not born in or were too young in his terms to "know" anything, loathed the man, and we secretly said a "Thank you Jesus, take him on home" (as to hell), when he died. In addition to that, remember he died on the same day--and after--the legendary Ray Charles died, and we thought Rays death was more significant anyway. And it all boils down to two little words: "Welfare Queen"--the one who earned her living by driving from welfare office to welfare office in her Cadillac, to get her checks. The image of the "Welfare Queen" has never gone away and is still alive--especially in these hard economic times--in the minds of too many, and coming out of the moths of the powerful--"No unemployment extension. It discourages them from working at the jobs that are overwhelming already out there."

Posted by Brown Eyed Girl on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 11:32 PM

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Stratus Blue

Well said!

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:59 PM

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Stacy

You are right, of course! All you have to do is look at what Bush Sr. did in his campaign against Ducakis in 1990 with Willie Horton... He succeed in using the "angry, violent, scary black criminal" to win the White House. Not so subtle racism still works, and as long as it work it will be used to obtain power and control of the masses.

Posted by Stacy on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:08 PM

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Lika Pika

Lika TheLobbyist

I've never understood racism. Seriously. The ones who are racist against one race probably are prejudiced against others.

I'm half Japanese and half Caucasian, even though I'm relating with Americans, doesn't mean the color thing isn't present... Most of the time, I'm fine with things. But sometimes I have to wonder, these white people who don't like blacks, or blacks who don't like Hispanics,... I always wondered why they're friends with me, and wonder what they do think about me... and they always say that I'm different, and I really don't get it.

I either love everyone, or hate everyone.

Posted by Lika Pika on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 12:38 AM

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Stacy

Lika, I have no idea why that is. It would be interesting to find out though...

Posted by Stacy on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:27 PM

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Lika Pika

Lika TheLobbyist

It would be interesting.

Posted by Lika Pika on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 1:19 AM

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Stratus Blue

If the racism is reigio-racist it is there you will find your answers. Racism is certainly individually held though so each person has their own reasoning for it.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:01 PM

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Lika Pika

Lika TheLobbyist

I'm sorry... I'm not understanding the term "reigio-racist". Is that based on region or religion? I'd appreciate it if you could define that for me. Thanks.

Posted by Lika Pika on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:50 PM

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Christina Wilpers

I do have a question for ya Stacy. Why is it that when someone hangs a certain flag, which to them means nothing more than Southern Pride, they are called racist. Aren't your personal beliefs allowed to be your own? As long as you are not pushing your beliefs off on someone is it not ok to say, have said flag hanging in your bedroom? Personally I don't think race or religion should have anything to do with politics. To each their own! But being that I am WICCAN and I DO have a rebel flag hanging in my bedroom I guess I should be burned at the stake, and hung from the highest tree in order to pay for my ancestor's (admittedly)horrific actions? Who is one person to point a finger at ANY other person and call them racist...be they white, black or purple? It exists, it is wrong but it does exist. Sorry.

Posted by Christina Wilpers on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 12:53 AM

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Christina Wilpers

Oh and By "Southern Pride" I personally mean Southern Pride. NOT pride for what the South did to any group of people, or what the South fought for, but simply pride in being Southern and being from the South. Kind of like (insert your favorite college sports teams name here ) Pride. And as far as the term Welfare Queen goes, I do believe in this day and age, with people of ALL races being on welfare, due to need, not laziness that the term welfare queen being applied to anyone for any reason is unjust.

Posted by Christina Wilpers on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 1:00 AM

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Stacy

To me, this is a simple question with a simple answer. The Confederate Flag represents to many people a time of repression, racism, slavery, war and loss of life. It's been used to intimidate black people and their supporters for hundreds of years and is still used to spread fear by many racist people and racist organizations like the KKK and skin heads. Nazi skins heads use both the swastika and the confederate flag at their gatherings to this day. That's not an opinion it is a fact, Christy. Any positive symbolism you or other southern citizens to me is a false pride if you consider what feelings it invokes to others. It's not one person who points a finger at that flag, it's millions and it's not their actions that caused it. It's the actions, word and behaviors of those white southerners that used it for those reasons that made that flag to be viewed this way. It's divisive and should not even be a part of our culture if we want to move on.

Posted by Stacy on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 3:45 PM

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Christina Wilpers

Yes Stacy, Neo Nazi's and Skinheads, and Aryan's use the Confederate Flag as a symbol of hate and do use it to intimidate not just black people, but Jewish people, Gay people, and pretty much anyone else who does not have the so-called privilege of being born white. But the Aryans also use the US flag, as well as the Christian flag that is displayed in some Protestant churches. So, in that vein, should the US flag and that particular Christian flag also not even be a part of our culture? I do not in any way look favorably upon the atrocities that were heaped upon the minorities (all of them) in this Nation. You say the phrase Stacy "if we want to move on." so shouldn't part of moving on involve taking the hurtful symbols of the past, and remaking them? To take something that has been viewed as so negative, and turn it into a good feeling for the people who stand proud beneath it, for vastly different reasons than the people who came before and used it as a symbol for their own purposes?

part of Wikipedia's definition for the Confederate flag

The display of the Confederate flag remains a highly controversial and emotional topic, generally because of disagreement over its symbolism.

Some groups use the Southern Cross as one of the symbols associated with their organizations, including racist groups such as the Neo-Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan.[21] The flag is also sometimes used by separatist organizations such as the Aryan Nations. The Aryan Nation also uses the U.S. flag as well as the Christian flag displayed in some Protestant churches.

Supporters of the flag view it as a symbol of southern heritage and the independence of the distinct cultural tradition of the South from Northern government. Due to its ban in some schools and universities that have viewed it as a racist symbol, display of the flag has, in these contexts, also been considered an exercise of free speech.[22]

Some southerners claim that they see the flag as merely a symbol of southern culture without any political or racial connotation.[citation needed] An example of this would be the Bocephus Rebel Flag often sold at concerts performed by country music star Hank Williams, Jr or Kevin Fowler, heavy metal band Pantera, and southern rock band Lynyrd Skynyrd. For some, the flag represents only a past era of southern sovereignty.[23] Some historical societies such as the Sons of Confederate Veterans and the United Daughters of the Confederacy also use the flag as part of their symbols. Some rockabilly fans hold the Confederate flag as their emblem as well.[24] The flag is a regular cultural meme, often appearing in association with a character intended to represent a stereotypical Southerner.

As a result of these varying perceptions, there have been a number of political controversies surrounding the use of the Confederate flag in Southern state flags, at sporting events, at Southern universities, and on public buildings. According to Civil War historian and native Southerner Shelby Foote, the flag traditionally represented the South's resistance to Northern political dominance; it became racially charged during the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and 1960s, when fighting against desegregation suddenly became the focal point of that resistance.

Symbols of the Confederacy remain a contentious issue across the United States and have been debated vigorously in many Southern state legislatures over their civic placement since the 1990s.

Posted by Christina Wilpers on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 1:26 AM

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Stacy

No, it needs to go the way of the swatika.... That's my opinion. There has to be some other historical southern symbol for those that feel as you do to latch on to....

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:20 AM

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Christina Wilpers

Well if you find one let me know

Posted by Christina Wilpers on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:50 AM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

" There has to be some other historical southern symbol for those that feel as you do to latch on to."

To me, that is a failure of logic.

The United States as a WHOLE used slaves, not just the South.

Should we do away with the United States flag because slavery was accepted nationwide?

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:14 PM

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Stacy

You must not have read the reasons I gave above... I already stated with clarity why that flag creates the emotion it does.

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 8:57 PM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

Stacy,

you are either in a hurry and didnt understand what i was saying or being too defensive for our flag.

I will break it down.

1. ALL Southern states are a PART of the United States.

2. The north owned and used slaves TOO.

3. Since the Southern States are a part of the United States, then we should ban the US flag too because slavery happened in the ENTIRE United States.

How much more articulate can I get?

You cannot ban just the Southern flag because the north is just as guilty, it doesn't matter who wanted to end slavery FIRST. The whole United States was guilty of slavery.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:45 PM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

Obamalot below,

You seemed to desecrate the idea of the elimination of federal govt rule.

There are a lot of Libertarians on MySpace that would love to chew you alive for equating the absence of federal govt to being racist or wrong about wanting freedom from federal rule.

I thought it would be easy to understand and if you want to start name calling, I can go that route too.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:30 AM

Obamalot

I don't know, perhaps some Confederate southern priders are also Libertarians. I'm not really sure I'm following your logic, but then again I can't seem to get my head to go that far up my ass.

I'll try again tomorrow and maybe then we can rejoin this discussion on "Eurinedouches guide to living in your own little world".

Posted by Obamalot on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:26 AM

EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

Jim below,

" believed that they didn't have the right to be told how to live their lives by a federal government,"

and how would that be any different than being a Libertarian?

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:57 PM

Obamalot

Of course, your logic is failing as well.

The Confederate flag is not just a symbol of racism, intolerance, or "southern pride" as many delusional types seem to state. The Confederate flag is the symbol of the south, who in it's own self-glorifying eyes believed that they didn't have the right to be told how to live their lives by a federal government, which included being told to put an end to slavery. They were not unable to adapt to a world without slavery, it's just that they thought they knew best and would choose to stick with their own ideas on how to economically run the south.

They were so adamant in their contempt for the United States that they were willing to secede from our nation. They were willing to take all that our founding fathers worked for, shit on it, and throw it down the drain. Kinda like this asshat of a governor I have in Texas who keeps suggesting that if the government doesn't do whatever he wants them to do, he'll take Texas and his toys and go play somewhere else.

At the very least, it was and is still Un-American and betrays the values that we are supposed to hold so dearly about "one nation, indivisible". That is what the Confederate flag really represents. A bunch of Benedict Arnold southerners who were more concerned about their own financial interests than they were in protecting our nation.

That is why the flag should go. It's not just about racism. It's unpatriotic. Don't confuse that with the US flag, which has always stood for unity.

Posted by Obamalot on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:23 PM

Škrabálku o zmrzačení a apatie

Pssst Chris, I'm Stacy's friend and lost this one already...

Posted by Škrabálku o zmrzačení a apatie on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:35 AM

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Stacy

Psssst.... she is my step sister and she is gonna lose too!

Naw, I don't have to win. I understand what she is saying and what you have today. I just disagree!

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:19 AM

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Christina Wilpers

lol Yeah I am her step-sister, so I knew what I was getting myself into by putting my thoughts out there lol. But being the open minded person she really is, she accepts me for me no matter if we agree on things or not. Seeing the responses she gets for just talking about her views, and knowing the person she is, it's a wonder she keeps these blogs of hers open to the public. Then again, knowing her love of debate, it really isn't such a wonder.

Posted by Christina Wilpers on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:19 AM

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Lika Pika

Lika TheLobbyist

This is a powerful statement, and very true. Great answer, Stacey.

Posted by Lika Pika on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 1:21 AM

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Brown Eyed Girl

Brown Eyes

My parents are from Louisiana, and I spent my Summers there, during childhood and high school years. Being born in CA and near a big city, San Fransisco, when I was in rural LA, I thought it was backwards. As I grew older I could appreciate the wonderful things about rural life. A few years ago I went there with my mother, after not going from my teen years. My mother and I missed our flight, did not hear it being called and when we sat for 20 minutes past take-off time, I went to the counter and found out the borders I thought were for Chicago, was our flight! We had to take a 3 hour later one and did not land in LA until 1:00 AM. My aunt and uncle picked us up at the airport, and the moment we stepped outside, I got a blast of the LA Summer heat--even that late! On the drive to New Iberia, long one 2 hours, my uncle let the window down and when we hit outside New Orleans, I started smelling the sent of the flowers and the swamp, so strong, I thought, "I am home." It was so strong. I love my link to Louisiana. My parents were born under segregation and when they were at Southern University, where they met, the university took its students, all black, into downtown Baton Rouge by bus to attempt to integrate a lunch counter. The students were met by police, with batons, tear-gas, and they even set the dogs upon the students. That was in my parents era and it was horrible, and certainly worse in my grandparents time. LA is no "racial harmonic paradise" where is, but when I see the integration in my aunts town of New Iberia, I feel so good about it--more racial-acceptance is still needed, but I am so grateful for the progress. I like the "New South." Is it perfect-no, is it bad in rural areas-yes, better in some states than others--definitely. I like the area, landscape-I appreciate how it is different from the West Coast Culture (whose liberalism I love). I can understand liking your regional area and its distinctiveness, while abhorring it past history with race and wanting it to improve on that area. I am completely with you on the Confederate Flag. It was a proud symbol of racial-segregation in the South, so people who like their "region" --which may be what Christians meant--should not use it as a symbol of their liking the "their regional area" and while they completely reject the racism, the connection with slavery, the, the pride it once had in being the "South" and not the "North". Its connection to those things make it unacceptable to use as a symbol of anything you are proud of.

Posted by Brown Eyed Girl on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:42 PM

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Stacy

"It was a proud symbol of racial-segregation in the South, so people who like their "region" --which may be what Christians meant--should not use it as a symbol of their liking the "their regional area" and while they completely reject the racism, the connection with slavery, the, the pride it once had in being the "South" and not the "North". Its connection to those things make it unacceptable to use as a symbol of anything you are proud of"

Exactly!!!!!!

Posted by Stacy on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:46 PM

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Maybe they need a new flag. You know, one that say happy, and sunshine. Maybe they should change their name from Southern Pride to something that doesn't really speak to a dark history, but to one that just says I'm happy, but is also used for unity, and alliance.

So, still with me? I think they should use a flag like this:

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This is the Unity Flag, and has been used since the 15th century. It's also called the Rainbow Flag.

Now, as for the name, let's just called it Joy Pride.

Hmm, that doesn't sound quite right. I want to capture the concept of joy, but make people feel like they care in a group together. I know how about:

GAY PRIDE!

;)

Posted by J on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:40 PM

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Christina Wilpers

I must take a picture of the room I am speaking of LOL seeing as how the Confederate Flag hangs on one wall in my room, as homage to the Southern Pride I speak of, and on another wall I have my Flag paying homage to Gay pride (even though as JUST a bi-sexual the extremist gay people out there don't consider me gay), and on the western facing wall there is a LARGE Pentagram, paying homage to Mother Earth.

Posted by Christina Wilpers on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 2:31 AM

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Wow, here I am joking like a clown, and I had no idea. lol

You're a good sport, thanks!

Posted by J on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 8:06 AM

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Stacy

What is so great about this comment, J, is not only is it humorous it's the truth!!! We should all be waving and hanging that flag!

Posted by Stacy on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:48 PM

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Notice how you had to explain that. Maybe, those that may have misunderstood your first comment, would likewise misunderstand the whole "Southern Pride" thing.

Posted by J on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 3:05 PM

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Christina Wilpers

You are right, but just as some people do not understand the whole "Southern Pride" thing, there are those who don't understand the whole "Gay Pride" thing, or the whole "Christianity" thing. For every "thing" that there is, there is someone who doesn't understand it.

Posted by Christina Wilpers on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 2:35 AM

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The only difference I see is that gay and christian (sans that nasty Spanish Inquisition) are not against others, rather for themselves. Where as the Confederate is none for being on the wrong side of history in regard to slavery, which of course was all about being against an entire race.

There is a difference.

Posted by J on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 8:10 AM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

You sound like the type of guy who makes friends with people of different races so he can BOAST of having "diverse" friends. That is not open mindedness...it is phoniness.

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:46 AM

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Interesting, you feel you're qualified to counsel people on open mindedness?

Not that it matters, but two of my sons are biracial.

Posted by J on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:08 AM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

Interesting that Obama does not consider himself biracial although his African father left his ass as a baby, right? He put his race as African American on his census even though technically he had no slave ancestors (although his white side owned slaves).

I date all races but I will probably chose a white woman to marry because I don't want to get all confused at census time.

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:14 AM

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Lika Pika

Lika TheLobbyist

*face palm* This is one of the brainless things I've heard.

African American, because that is what the category is for black people. And by definition, if one is 1 drop black, then your race is African American. Look it up. It has nothing to do with if your ancestors were black. That is a totally racist comment that if someone is half black that they can't mark down the ONLY CHOICE that states it can't be checked because their ancestors weren't slaves?

What is so confusing about filling out the census? It is a basic questionnaire, that is easier to understand than a job application. How do you do data entry when you find filling in your own data confusing?

Posted by Lika Pika on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:01 AM

Stratus Blue

Humans choose furniture. Racism chooses race.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 4:55 PM

The X-Generation of Smileys!

His dad came from Africa and his mom from America, and you say he's not an African American?

x:)

Posted by The X-Generation of Smileys! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 1:49 PM

Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

VVVVV

Below: black Americans such as columnist Stanley Crouch is disgusted that Obama used the term African American to describe himself. He is denying his white ancestry on purpose because in a way, he is ashamed by it.

What Obama isn't: black like me (Stanley Crouch Eats His Own)

New York Daily News ^ | 11/02/06 | Stanley Crouch

If Barack Obama makes it all the way to becoming the Democratic nominee for President in 2008, a feat he says he may attempt, a much more complex understanding of the difference between color and ethnic identity will be upon us for the very first time. Back in 2004, Alan Keyes made this point quite often. Keyes was the black Republican carpetbagger chosen by the elephants to run against Obama for the U.S. Senate seat from Illinois. The choice of Keyes was either a Republican version of affirmative action or an example of just how dumb the party believes black voters to be, since it was obvious that Keyes came from the Southeast, not the Midwest.

That race was never much of a contest, but one fascinating subplot was how Keyes was unable to draw a meaningful distinction between himself as a black American and Obama as an African-American. After all, Obama's mother is of white U.S. stock. His father is a black Kenyan. Other than color, Obama did not - does not - share a heritage with the majority of black Americans, who are descendants of plantation slaves.

Of course, the idea that one would be a better or a worse representative of black Americans depending upon his or her culture or ethnic group is clearly absurd. Even slavery itself initially came under fire from white Christians - the first of whom to separate themselves from the institution were Quakers. The majority of the Union troops were white, and so were those who have brought about the most important civil rights legislation.

Why then do we still have such a simple-minded conception of black and white - and how does it color the way we see Obama? The naive ideas coming out of Pan-Africanism are at the root of the confusion. When Pan-African ideas began to take shape in the 19th century, all black people, regardless of where in the world they lived, suffered and shared a common body of injustices. Europe, after all, had colonized much of the black world, and the United States had enslaved people of African descent for nearly 250 years.

Suffice it to say: This is no longer the case.

So when black Americans refer to Obama as "one of us," I do not know what they are talking about. In his new book, "The Audacity of Hope," Obama makes it clear that, while he has experienced some light versions of typical racial stereotypes, he cannot claim those problems as his own - nor has he lived the life of a black American.

Will this matter in the end? Probably not. Obama is being greeted with the same kind of public affection that Colin Powell had when he seemed ready to knock Bill Clinton out of the Oval Office. For many reasons, most of them personal, Powell did not become the first black American to be a serious presidential contender.

I doubt Obama will share Powell's fate, but if he throws his hat in the ring, he will have to run as the son of a white woman and an African immigrant. If we then end up with him as our first black President, he will have come into the White House through a side door - which might, at this point, be the only one that's open.

You know who else was ashamed of their white ancestry: Malcolm X.

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:45 AM

"Interesting that Obama does not consider himself biracial although his African father left his ass as a baby, right? He put his race as African American on his census even though technically he had no slave ancestors (although his white side owned slaves)."

Interesting that you don't seem to know how to gracefully spin to a different subject, one I'm fairly sure is none of my business, nor yours. But anyway:

From Wiki:

African Americans (also referred to as Black Americans or Afro-Americans, and formerly as American Negroes) are citizens or residents of the United States who have origins in any of the black populations of Africa.[2] In the United States, the terms are generally used for Americans with at least partial Sub-Saharan African ancestry.

Seems like he made the right choice. But why do you care? And why do you ask me?

"I date all races but I will probably chose a white woman to marry because I don't want to get all confused at census time."

Interesting, confusion will be the tipping point regarding who you would marry...

I'm really not sure why you think I want to know that, or why you would ask me about Obama's census form. Maybe you think I'm your friend, while you sit alone in your bedroom spanking it with a thumb up your ass, but really, I have lots of things to do outside today.

So, check with your mom upstairs and see if you can come out and play. Then go outside and get some exercise. You could certainly use it. ;)

Posted by J on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:22 AM

This is an interesting reaction to the NAACP's action v The Tea Party:

Racism tends to attract attention when its flagrant and filled with invective. But like all bigotry, the most potent component of racism is frame-flipping--positioning the bigot as the actual victim. So the gays do not simply want to marry, they want to convert our children into sin. The Jews do not merely want to be left in peace, they actually are plotting world take-over. And the blacks are not actually victims of American power, but beneficiaries of the war against hard-working whites. This is a respectable, more sensible, bigotry, one that does not seek to name-call, preferring instead change the subject and strawman.

Link

Posted by J on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 10:20 AM

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Stacy

Wow...

Sometimes you read or hear something that sums up how you feel and what you are trying to say more clearly than you are able. This is one of those times for me. Thank you J for posting this. I'm sure others read "NAACP" and quite reading or instantly discount what is said, I hope people will actually read what is said instead...

Posted by Stacy on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:31 PM

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I found it on a conservative's site, Andrew Sullivan's The Dish. Ok, so he's also gay, and a writer, but a died in the wool REAL conservative.

I read your blog right after I read his article. 1+1=2 ;)

Posted by J on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:41 PM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

You would think a fudgepacker is a true conservative. You defining conservative is like Mel Gibson defining the word "boyfriend."

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:28 AM

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Stratus Blue

He was born and the prophet proclaimed: "He will never need a shovel".

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:06 PM

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Škrabálku o zmrzačení a apatie

I do think that before any semblance of normalcy can exist between all groups, we need to extinguish the double standards that exist...

Examples... ethnic humor by someone of the same ethnic group... Italian comedians making fun of stereotypical Italians, black comedians raging on blacks... Chris Rock is famous for that...

Also if it is acceptable for rappers to abuse the word nigger, oh excuse me they pronounce it nigga.. then the word needs to be accepted whn any use it...

I'm not justifying anything I have said or done, or anyone else, just throwing my thoughts out there...

We can't have behavior or language that is wrong for all groups, except members of the same...

I'mma take my cracker ass outta here now

Posted by Škrabálku o zmrzačení a apatie on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 2:32 PM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

Eddie Murphy frequently made fun of white people.

So Eddie Murphy was racist, right?

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:27 AM

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Stratus Blue

Who said Eddie Murphy was not a racist?

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:07 PM

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"Hardcase"

Bill Gillen

oh...dead air...............LMAO

Posted by "Hardcase" on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:06 PM

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Brown Eyed Girl

Brown Eyes

My only comment on this is as a Black woman, whose parents originate from the South and grew up under ugly segregation, and indeed were niggers back then. I cannot tolerate the word nigger, casually, or at all. Which is why I cannot tolerate most Gansta' Rap because the brothers use of nigga' offends me. I also notice how they dress, pants-on-the-ground, the flashy jewelery, boasting of their violent behaviour, their sexual prowess, calling black women bitches and hos', not to mention the black women the videos who are scantily clad, only there for their bodies, which they display and wiggle, drives me mad. Why, because historically black men (slave times) were portrayed as sexual animals, who had to be forcibly controlled. Black women were sooo sexual they liked when the slave master visited their plantation houses late at night. The stereotypes of black people as stupid so all the do is dance, drink, they are so loud, have no class, speak in such un-educated ways. The gansta' rappers are displaying these stereotypes of black men and women and seem proud of it. It is as if they are saying, "Yeah, all the things your have said about us from the beginning are true, so keep thinking it, we really do like this life." Stacy will disagree, but simply how I see it.

Posted by Brown Eyed Girl on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:54 PM

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Stacy

Why do you think I'd disagree with that?? I'm curious.............

Posted by Stacy on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:59 PM

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Brown Eyed Girl

Brown Eyes

A lot of people do. Many blacks say it is OK for a black person to say nigger in a joke, on a record, calling another black a nigger or nigga' and meaning no harm, as in "Its a black thing. You wouldn't understand" Remember that T-shirt. Many white liberals would agree, and would say a white pointing out that blacks call each other a nigger, jokingly, or even in anger and disrespect "so why can't I say it?" would be a racist--(quite probably) -for example my parents are middle-class, not highly though, and my mother calls the "bad part of town," where it is poverty stricken, crime ridden, what is called a "black ghetto" or "an inner city", even though the city of Richmond is not very large, she calls it "Niggerville." In the sense of looking down on a lower-class. I cringe every time she says it. Told her more than once, she does it anyway. Mostly, I thought you wold say that black use of the word is different than when whites use of the word (true), so it is OK when they use it. Personally, for the reasons I mentioned I hate it period, even in the videos.

Posted by Brown Eyed Girl on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 5:20 PM

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Stratus Blue

When some idea is heavily marketed, like the "Gangsta-Rap Image" it does not make the idea true. It only demonstrates that the idea is heavily financed. So we CAN CONCLUDE that SOMEONE with money WANTS that idea to be circulated. The motives CAN be monetary gain but MAY be entirely political in nature. The PROJECTION of the "Gansta Rap Image" is most often financed by the super wealthy who have no need of anything other than security in their positions of dominance. What better ploy for a slave master than to project the image of wealth on his/her targets of exploitation.

Gangsta Rap is certainly a false image projected on a target race by a tiny segment (fascia) of the super-rich.

Luckily, some (like Immortal Technique) adapted the weapon used to destroy and wield elements of that heavily financed campaign as HIS MISSION of peaceful promotion of humanity's health and well being.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:19 PM

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jason

i'm a big fan of immortal technique....i've always liked this song:

Posted by jason on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:28 PM

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Stacy

I would be more than happy to see that word completely dropped from the language of everybody. No matter who uses it somebody is hurt and it benefits no one. You are right, I wouldn't be comfortable telling any black person what they should do with that word and I do understand trying to own it but I think the cons far out way any pros to it's use. So, I do agree with you.

Posted by Stacy on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 5:23 PM

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Your examples are actually good examples of BAD behavior, no matter how you slice it.

Posted by J on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 3:07 PM

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John

John Asgeirson

Very interesting research. In some ways I think racism is such a flashpoint term that it is becoming a little less useful. If you go down the list everyone has probably been guilty at one point or another and the alternative of being political correct doesn't work very well either. I just use the term tribal and people either get it or are confused.

Posted by John on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 2:56 PM

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Stacy

It's only a flashpoint because we are still arguing about whether it exists, what it means and who displays racist behavior. We will never be able to have an honest discussion until we can agree on those three things. If we deny what's an obvious truth we will never be able to address it. I wont shut up because there are those that I make nervous by talking in an honest way about racism. People try to discredit me with misogynist rhetoric and other diversion tactics all of the time....

Posted by Stacy on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 4:11 PM

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John

John Asgeirson

Your example is classic myspace. Sometimes the internet does not help promote reasonable discussion, but the opposite.

Posted by John on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:58 AM

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Stacy

Myspace is a small microcosim of the real world. That person is just a racist and thought she found a blog that would agree with her.

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:25 AM

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Prophet 43

Would LOVE to see racism listed as a mental health disorder like borderline personality, paranoia, narcissism, etc. Racism is for sure a MENTAL HEALTH DISORER and should be treated as such. Lots of people in the world and on MySpace in need of therapy.

Posted by Prophet 43 on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 5:34 PM

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"Hardcase"

Bill Gillen

Yes...classify it as a Mental Disorder and people can get paid for it from the government. Just think how that would work out!!!

Posted by "Hardcase" on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:10 PM

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Frank SS

Hard to comment this blog without being labeled, but my standard answer is " I dont care if you're purple with yellow polka dots, I just care about how you act!" That said...some of these comments on here are racist.

Posted by Frank SS on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 6:00 PM

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Frank SS

Some of the commenters are racist I should say...good research and important Blog S.

Posted by Frank SS on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 8:10 PM

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Erik

I cringe when someone complains about being PC. It says they WANT to be a racist, they WANT to be a bigot, but they feel like they can't do so because some liberal (according to them) said they can't. It's just a matter of human decency. In reality, political persuasion doesn't apply -- DECENT folks don't feel that way, DECENT folks respect Americans regardless of viewpoint because they understand America is a democracy.

Posted by Erik on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 9:28 PM

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♥ Judi Sunshine ♥

Wow. That comment is scary. Why do people think saying hateful things is the same as "not being afraid to speak one's mind?" If your mind is full of racism, speaking it doesn't make you braver; it just means now you're a loud racist instead of a quiet one. I think racists tend to think that deep down, everyone thinks just like them, they just have the balls to say it. Nope!

Posted by ♥ Judi Sunshine ♥ on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:39 AM

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jason

this was my very first blog that ever got noticed by others......i deleted this blog after the girl in it received death threats from others via email for her words below....this is a perfect example of racism as well.....

Sunday, May 02, 2010

a conversation with a nazi about illegal immigration

Current mood: irritated

Category: News and Politics

to set up and give a little background, i had left my status message to say something about arizona's new law sounding like nazi germany with the carry your papers part and this guy comments on it that we need to keep em all out no matter what....so i commented that he came from immigrants like everyone else in america, and instead of commenting back, he decided he'd rather email the conversation (probably too ashamed to say these things in a public forum--but i don't like nazis so i'm making the shit public!!) my comments are all in bold.....

he really gets into the white supremacy mode towards the end....how sick are people like this??

=NORDI…

4/30/2010 4:53 AM

To: jason (jdmills123@myspace.com) Jason, whatever my descendants came from, in the places that they came to, there was nothing there, until THEY have build it. And they were never given ANY automatic welfare. Not just be "inconvenienced" or "offended", by being asked to show the ID and to get back home please, if required so.

jason

Hey

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To: =NORDIC=

"Hey Jason, whatever my descendants came from, in the places that they came to, there was nothing there, until THEY have build it"

are you confused about this nation's history? remember the indians? yeah, they used to live here, until your descedants killed them all...

your next completely innaccurate quote:

"And they were never given ANY automatic welfare."

boy are you wrong.....most of the immigrants that travelled to new world were all given free land to settle...and most if not all new settlers were all given rations by the gov't to survive the winters....

"and lastly "Not just be "inconvenienced" or "offended", by being asked to show the ID and to get back home please, if required so."

hitler used the exact same kind of logic, i'm sure he would be so proud of you!!

=NORDI…

1:22 AM

To: jason (jdmills123@myspace.com) am European. Germanic/Nordic/. Not an American. So my statement is all true. My ancestors were not any immigrants!

And what about these laws? Would you support them?

That no any illegally coming over the border person, can ever be allowed a chance to apply for the change of their status to become legal and to remain in the country?

And that even all legally coming and later naturalized persons, still can never receive ANY public assistance, join any political party, participate in any public demonstration, belong to any union, be ever elected or vote in the election, own any % stake in any media or national resources companies, can ever own and buy a high value estate property, beach front property, request their native language assistance, either in court or during filling out of any applications

And that their right to remain in the country can be revoked by any federal judge or even at the special request of any major city police chief, at ANY time. Without them even being allowed to appear and to defend themselves. And there shall be no any right for review and appeal in cases like that.

Is that "Hitler"?

Or is it actually the law of Mexico and how they MOST VIGOROUSLY enforce every single part and letter of it?

So let me see, when Mexicans do it, towards their cousins of other S. American countries, it is all ok and peachy. Not racist, Hitler or bigoted. No any "civil rights" group in Mexico has EVER challenged or even questioned that law. And according to the polls, 96-98% of all Mexicans living in Mexico SUPPORT this law. Because Mexico is only for the Mexicans!

But as soon as any of them start ILLEGALLY coming over to the US, then it is no longer US for US citizens? And when not even just 5% of what Mexicans do towards LEGAL immigrants in Mexico, is being proposed to be done now towards ILLEGAL Mexicans in the US, it is then immediately racist, bigoted and evil??? And all sort of "Latino Civil Rights" groups immediately becoming enraged. But never even raise a peep, over Mexican military stationed at Mexico's southern border and having direct orders of shoot to kill, any non-Mexican "Latino" trying to cross the border into Mexico.

And please answer me: Since to ask for ID so to determine if the person in the country is legally or not and then to deport them, if they are not, if that is "Hitler", then in what country right now, where this exact same does not happen and normal? In what country they actually do NOT do that and not "Hitler" according to you? China, Russia, Cuba... Egypt, Somalia... Argentina, Honduras... Finland, Estonia, Switzerland... Is there any country, that is not "Hitler" and not doing it and the model for the US and all the rest to follow and to be proud of???

jason

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To: =NORDIC=

"I am European. Germanic/Nordic/. Not an American. So my statement is all true. My ancestors were not any immigrants!"

so then why are you debating me on american politics? you worry about your country and i'll worry about mine.....america is a country founded on immigrants, and most of them were illegal....so get over it.....and if you are german adn nordic then you should know how bloody and brutal the history of your people is......do you not htink your people invaded anothers land and took it from them?

"And that even all legally coming and later naturalized persons, still can never receive ANY public assistance, join any political party, participate in any public demonstration, belong to any union, be ever elected or vote in the election, own any % stake in any media or national resources companies, can ever own and buy a high value estate property, beach front property, request their native language assistance, either in court or during filling out of any applications

Is that "Hitler"?

Or is it actually the law of Mexico and how they MOST VIGOROUSLY enforce every single part and letter of it? "

i never said that every single part of this law is just like nazi germany now did i? i was referring to the act of forcing all latino americans to carry around paperwork proving there citizenship.....that was the only part of the legislation i was comparing to hitler, so all of your statement above is completely irrelevant....are you a fan of nazi germany? i did not mean to offend you if you are, but i myself am not so i pointed out the similarity i see between this law and nazi regime...

"So let me see, when Mexicans do it, towards their cousins of other S. American countries, it is all ok and peachy. Not racist, Hitler or bigoted. "

i do not live in mexico, i do not claim to know or understand the laws of another nation, and i really don't care what they do down in south america....

"And when not even just 5% of what Mexicans do towards LEGAL immigrants in Mexico, is being proposed to be done now towards ILLEGAL Mexicans in the US,"

really? are you stating that as fact now? "5% of what mexicans do towards legal immigrants in mexico" so what exactly are the tactics used the encompass 5% of what mexicans do? what a purposefully vague and made up statement designed to give you support where there is none....

you know, your european heritage speaks volumes to your desire to segregate the world, but come on man, it's 2010 it's time to let that shit go.....we are all human beings on this planet, and regardless of our skin color or birthplace, we are all in the same boat.....

=NORDI…

1:56 PM

To: jason (jdmills123@myspace.com) am I debating you on American politics? Because USA has great influence. And part of the White Western Civilization. And because it was founded as a State, by my specific ancestry people. Germanic people. So I feel a certain kinship there. And lastly, because I see great similarity in the peril that it faces, with my own lands. This Third World Invasion of them.

And may be you prefer this World to be one boat, but not me and not the multitude of others. Because I do not want my "boat" to become like Rwanda or Mexico or Somalia... We do not have "one boat". We have many boats. Many different races, cultures, mentalities, values and way of doing things. And many of those are incompatible. And will sink my better organization, maintenance and upkeep boat, if they will be taken aboard.

Unless of'course you want to see no unique cultures, no different races and specific characteristics, but just a One World Government, captaining that boat of yours. And all people living like they do in Mexico or Somalia or in some immigrant suburbs of Paris or London or Los Angeles now.

jason

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To: =NORDIC=

usa has much greater issues than just immigration....they do call this country the melting pot for a reason.....virtually all races that come here drop their customs within a few generations, or at least most of their own culture.....do i think this is a bad thing? it really doesn't matter to me.....i view my country as a great disease on the world, and this is not the way it is supposed to be.....my country has been under attack from big business since it's inception and as we can all see we have lost that fight....special interests run my country and make decisions that most americans disagree with.....the media is used as a tool to manipulate the minds of the masses and shape desires within our hearts and minds that we do not need, and that ultimately hurt us in the long term....

i live here in america and i feel the effect of illegal aliens in the job market....i work in property management but i got my start in construction and my wage rates have suffered because of that start.....but who am i to say that some invisible line exists somewhere that certain people cannot cross? i have greater concerns to focus on, such as attempting to help my fellow americans understand how and why decisions are made in our government and for what ultimate end....

you accuse me of wanting globalisation but you apparently haven't looked at my profile because i have a blog titled "the fallacy of globalisation" but will that matter to the label you have already placed upon me?

i believe in human rights more than almost anything else.....i think all people of all races are equal, though they for sure are not treated this way.....and, speaking of germanic heritage, my grandmother on one side of my family and my grandfather from the other side of my family are both full blooded germans that came over before WWII....this fear you seem to have of "an invasion of them" disturbs me to no end, and you stereotype a nazi when you say such things, though i do not believe you to have such an ideology....

you say you do not want your boat to become like rwanda or somalia, but you don't even grasp why conditions exist in our world such as they do in those areas....9 times out of 10 western civilization (my country a forerunner here, i shamefully admit) has caused the havoc and mayhem....resource control and exploitation has been the driving force behind civilization for thousands of years nordic, what makes you think anything has changed? as world poplulations increase, you strike me as the type of person that would rather close off your borders and hoard all the wealth that you can while the rest of hte world starves and suffers.....i hope this is not true, but if you are unwilling to share the wealth of your economy with other races, then i see no other option but to view your intentions as selfish.....though my opinions of your intentions mean little, do you disagree?

of one thing i can agree with you on i think is that there are very powerful special interests that do seek a one world government, and without more public awareness before their propoganda goes much further we will lose that battle before it even begins....

NORDI…

7:11 PM

To: jason (jdmills123@myspace.com) that exist in those "poor" areas, are the direct result of mentality, work ethic, approaches to cleanliness, civic duty and so on, that different races of people inherently have. The reason of why Mexico or Somalia or other Third World places, look, interact and live their life the way they do, are the direct consequences of the abilities and mentality of those people. And no any amount of any "foreign aid" will fix it.

Germany has certain characteristics and traditions. A certain attitude towards work ethic, civic order and cleanliness, amongst other fine things, that made into a first rate country. It took less than a decade, after the most horrid devastation of WWII for Germany to recover. Foreign aid send there, had the guaranteed return of tenfold and of producing results. Precisely because this country was populated by the Germanic races people..

Mexico is the way it is and such a shithole, precisely because certain race of people, have made it such. It were not English who made it such. It were not some green aliens from Mars. Mexico looks the way it is, only and only because of the Mexicans. Because of that race of people mentality and the way of doing things. Just like Somalis have made Somalia the way it is. And no amount of foreign aid and any sharing of our wealth, will ever change that.

When White people have left Africa, they left behind the most advanced road system, factories, intact infrastructure, postal system, splendid architecture, mansions, farm lands, irrigation networks and flourishing agriculture. All working and in the pristine order. Africa had 10 of the most horrible diseases that it has now, to be officially declared as eradicated, when Whites ruled there. It had the average lifespan of Black, BLACK and not White African, of 12-17 years longer (depending on the country) than it has now!

The places that have famine now, used to EXPORT food. That is, AFTER they had left more than enough for themselves, so to provide for the caloric intake for the Black Africans living there, that was almost TWICE as high, as it is now

Yet as soon as Whites have left, all hell broke loose. Africa has descended into the most savage, famished and impoverished way of life.

One set of people raise their country from the total ruin and hell and make it a first rate country. All in under a decade. The other set of people, inherit all in working order and a very advanced infrastructure and descend to hell and total ruin, in the matter of just few years to even just few months, in some places.

And you going to tell me, that race does not matter?

We had scores of Third World people coming over to Berlin and Paris and London and they were given brand new housing, with all of the latest electrical wiring, kitchens, plumbing and so on… with still the smell of the fresh paint still lingering inside… And in the matter of weeks, the entire neighbourhood has acquired quite another smell. The distinct smell of human waste and urine.

Because they PREFER TO SHIT AND PEE, RIGHT WHERE THEY LIVE!

Because this is the only way of life known to them. Poverty, corruption, savagery, ruined ghettos and urine soaked sidewalks. They have created all that, where they came from. THEM. Not anyone else.

And likewise, they will bring all of that, anywhere that they go. And the only way we can “coexist” with them, is when we likewise, be forced to become like them and see our cities turn likewise into yet another Somalia or Mexico.

I am the true Anti-Globalist. I want them totally out of our lands. And I want us likewise, to never meddle in their affairs. I do not want to bring them any democracy, to change any of their hearts and minds, to exploit them for oil or to send them any foreign aid.

Conditions

=NORDI…

8:45 PM

To: jason (jdmills123@myspace.com) is not guaranteed, it requires Responsibility. Progress is not assured, it requires Ability. That is why many cultures dread it and incapable of it". By me.

I have seen your page and you have responded to my comments. So if you want to, you may see my page and about me in more detail. Send me an add request...

But whether you do decide to add me or to stay added or I myself may wish to keep you added, is totally another matter and we shall see. In either case, no hurt feelings.

"Freedom

jason

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To: =NORDIC=

no offence but i find your views on race to be quite revolting and i have no further wish to remain in contact with you....you and i have totally different views on the world....you know that hitler used that same freakin logic to start his eugenics programs with the nazis, i think people like you are twisted and sick....different cultures have different ways of doing things and different technological skills based mainly on their religions and their past cultures......you know little to nothing of what you say, you base your racist remarks on what little that you see in the world, but you fail to see past the propoganda you've been spoon fed your whole life......

i do not think the meaning to life is to work, as your "white" race does....increasing productivity and exploiting those less intelligent than i is not something i could ever stand for, as is the history of the white race....you say that africa is brutal, take a look at the history of the white race.....i'ts much, much worse.....you do not see the sorts of brutality with native americans as you do with white people...where are the indian rapists? or the indian serial killers? white culture has such things....where was the indian that sells drugs to his fellow indians? you overestimate your own culture (which, in my opinion, is the worst example of white culture there is-german history that is) and vastly underestimate those cultures that you do not understand.....and say these sorts of racially flagrant remarks anonymously via internet to someone you don't even know....

i am embarassed to share the same skin color as you

please do not respond to this email

Posted by jason on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:13 AM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

See, go right into Godwin's Law with the liberals. Use the Nazi references.

That is why your side cannot win.

Tell all the parents of children raped by illegal alien monsters, people killed by illegal alien drunk drivers, property damaged by illegal alien poachers, and you will understand your stupidity.

Your side is a loser on illegal immigration...in fact no one WANTS to hear your side. Your side is boring "they do jobs we won't do" "white Europeans were the first illegal aliens" bullshit...and to top it off, you call them "undocumented workers." You are fools.

You won't win.

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:22 AM

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MooseHammer

Moose Hammer

Why is it that one side or the other has to "WIN"?

Why can't AMERICA win? Would that be so bad?

Posted by MooseHammer on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:20 PM

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Princess Pele

No Republican has EVER used the word Nazi.

Republicans did not start the use of the word Nazi in the political arena.

Republicans like Glenn Beck have never used that word on the media in reference to the President of the United States -- ever!!

MTRG -- Ad hominem GENIUS!

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:09 PM

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"Hardcase"

Bill Gillen

You don't even listen to Glenn Beck. GB is a critical of the Republicans as he is the Democrats...but he does know that when we must choose one over the other Republicans win hands down.

If you knew the racist history of the Democratic Party...you'd distance yourself from them.

That is why Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican. Watch this video with MLK's niece explaining it.

Posted by "Hardcase" on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:16 PM

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Princess Pele

President Lynden B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964, followed by other legislation through 1968 and beyond to stop Southern racists from murdering and discriminating against black people. Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated in 1968.

It's only been 46 years that Democrats have been anti-racist.

Progress eludes the ignorant.

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/civilrightstimeline1.html

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:43 PM

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Princess Pele

Lyndon

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:44 PM

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Stacy

Don't bite, Pele, he is just trying to get you riled up. He is not worth it.

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:22 PM

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Princess Pele

Don't you WANT your blog to blow up???

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:44 PM

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Stacy

It seems to have blown up all on it's own. Now, according to Mosey on the first page, attorney's may be involved. Let them come but this blog will be disappearing soon. No way Hardcase and Mosey allow myspace to keep it up so spread the news!

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 8:52 PM

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jason

Posted by jason on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 4:06 PM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

From wikipedia:

Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's law of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990 which has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."[3][2] Put another way, Godwin puts forth the sarcastic observation that, given enough time, all discussions —regardless of topic or scope —inevitably wind up being about Hitler and the Nazis.

Godwin's law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the widespread reductio ad Hitlerum form. The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued[4] that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.

Although in one of its early forms Godwin's law referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions,[5] the law is now applied to any threaded online discussion: electronic mailing lists, message boards, chat rooms, and more recently blog comment threads, wiki talk pages, and social networking sites.

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:48 AM

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jason

goodwin's "law" be damned, if you tell me that black people are racially inferior to white people, i am going to bring up hitler and eugenics.....

you don't like it?

stop acting like hitler you fucking douche

Posted by jason on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 4:07 PM

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Stratus Blue

Heehee. He thinks if it gets called a law it becomes true. In WIKI there is now: MTRG Law: Any comment by MTRG is the ever expanding rhetoric of a sociopath.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:41 PM

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jason

Posted by jason on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:30 PM

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ஐkealeyஐ

oh yes haha

Posted by ஐkealeyஐ on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:38 PM

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US Army Veteran

Troy Spurlock

This is why we need to think about eugenics again...

I mean seriously, talk about going backwards rather than fowards in human evolution...

Posted by US Army Veteran on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:03 PM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

How do you feel when someone black stereotypes or attacks a white person?

Do you feel the same rage?

Probably not.

That is why I maintain you are a self loathing white woman.

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:18 AM

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Stratus Blue

Pre-judge.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:43 PM

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jason

Owned

V for Vagina | MySpace Video

Posted by jason on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 4:12 PM

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Stratus Blue

This never gets old!

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:20 PM

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"Hardcase"

Bill Gillen

Owned? Michael lost his case from a television judge. Big deal. This is the big video that everybody lead to all those claims by the Libturds about MTRG. OMG! That is so funny. Live and learn. If MTRG could do it over again, I doubt he'd have taken this woman to court. But then...MTRG did prove how much of a user this woman was. And like the judge said...at least he was conscious of her age...and did not want to fool around until she was of legal age. This is the big October Surprise of the Leftists...HAHAHA....that is so funny.

The judge's ruling was wrong also.

Posted by "Hardcase" on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:43 PM

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jason

the video is named "owned" i can't change that....i just think it's funny that this is the type of man we are dealing with here...

i don't expect you to understand, rather i expect to see you on judge mathis as well one day.....

Posted by jason on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:36 PM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

Hardcase,

"This is the big video that everybody lead to all those claims by the Libturds about MTRG."

The video is only a small PIECE of the claims made.

Michael was the interviewee of 3 Blog Talk Radio Shows and Misty was on one herself.

The claims against him was based MOSTLY by his BTR radios show answers and a lot on what SHE said on BTR.

You really need to research before you think you know everything to be claiming victory over all of those who DO know all of what was said by both parties.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:39 PM

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MooseHammer

Moose Hammer

I have to agree with Harcase on this one. This video doesn't do much to pwn MTRG. Although it does give folks a bit of insight into his real-life personality.

The fact of the matter is if you're looking for pwnage of MTRG, look no further than the comments that he posts. He pwns himself regularly.

Posted by MooseHammer on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:27 PM

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jason

the video is named "owned" on myspace, i cannot change the name of the video....

i'm just not wasting my time owning MTRG...he's honestly not worth the time....

Posted by jason on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:34 PM

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MooseHammer

Moose Hammer

Yes indeed.

Posted by MooseHammer on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:36 AM

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Stratus Blue

Well, that's true.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:31 PM

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Princess Pele

Stacy have you read about Mark Williams?

I am going to puke. I just posted an article about him on a blog.

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:50 AM

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Stacy

No, I haven't. I'll check it out!!!

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:14 PM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

Don't puke, Pele. You already are resembling Karen Carpenter. LOL

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:56 AM

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Princess Pele

The Republican racist trolls have arrived on your blog Stacy. Perhaps they are upset by your calling out Mosey (Poetry Page) -- whoever that is. She sounds just like every other Racist Republican I've ever had the misfortune to read on MySpace.

When a Liberal ranks almost as high as an auto-refresh Conservative, things are bound to get out of control.

[Thank you!!]

^^^^ That's why I'm giving you THIS.

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:05 AM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

So people that do not agree with this joke of a blog are "racist Republican trolls." That sounds like the mantra of the retarded.

Stacy only has about 80 comments on the page and Sabrina has several hundred already...yet Stacy is ranking this high. Who is autorefreshing now?

Yeah, the liberal is clearly screwing with the rankings.

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:19 AM

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MooseHammer

Moose Hammer

Attention America! Due to the fact that blogs have rankings on Myspace, racism no longer exists. That is all.

Posted by MooseHammer on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:29 PM

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♀Lilith♀

I just laughed my birkenstocks off!

Posted by ♀Lilith♀ on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:55 PM

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jason

Posted by jason on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:31 PM

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Princess Pele

[MySpace loser.]

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:52 AM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

Your brother should hold his remote with a better grip.

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:00 PM

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Princess Pele

Good job MTRG.

You finally generated your billionth ad hominem unwanted, off-topic "REPLY."

You're so good looking, fair, balanced, kind and intelligent.

Posted by Princess Pele on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:07 PM

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♀Lilith♀

Posted by ♀Lilith♀ on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 12:28 PM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

I bet you laughed your Birkenstocks off.

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:01 PM

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♀Lilith♀

Oh, you and your lame comebacks. It would almost be cute, but it's not because you're so nasty. You remind me of an angry little Joe Pesci, furiously typing your little attacks, trying to bait someone into an argument. Not working here, Joey. Now go home and get your fuckin' shine-box!

Posted by ♀Lilith♀ on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:13 PM

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Stacy

Michael,

I never once called Republicn racists let along trolls.

I do appreciate you coming here and being respectful, though, I mean that.

Now, could you just comment on the blog??? Seriously!

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:27 AM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

I asked you before, I will ask you again...if a black person makes racist comments about whites, do you feel the same outrage as when a white person stereotypes blacks?

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:32 AM

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Stacy

You do understand the differene between racism and stereotypes right? I noticed you changed your wording there.

I would eradicate all racism from any group... I've never said different. My blog is about racism of any kind.

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 2:15 PM

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jason

nice catch... i was just going to point out how in MTRG land, black people make racist comments and white people stereotypes.....

Posted by jason on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 4:13 PM

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Michael, the Rochester Guy!

Michael Rochester Guy

Both are just as guilty...but white liberals only point out the racism of whites.

Posted by Michael, the Rochester Guy! on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:02 PM

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EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

Michael,

"but white liberals only point out the racism of whites."

Is that so?

If I see racism towards us whites, I will call it right then and there.

You know how much I sounded the alarm about "you know who", being a race baiter.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:42 PM

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Obamalot

To Eurinedouche below:

Ok, my bad. Now I see the difference.

Black people race baiting white people=bad

white people making racist comments=good

Sorry, I got that confused.

Posted by Obamalot on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:31 AM

EurodanceAddict

Eurodanceaddict Two

Obamalot below,

"Yeah, you sounded the alarm when a black person made racist comments about whites,"

read again, I said...I sounded the alarm when a black person was race BAITING the whites.

Race baiting and racism is 2 different things.

That person doing the race baiting, I don't believe is a racist, but is a race baiter to the Nth degree.

She is busy wasting her life away playing the victim.

Posted by EurodanceAddict on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:09 AM

Obamalot

Yeah, you sounded the alarm when a black person made racist comments about whites,

yet when a white person made racial comments about black people,

you rationalized it using false facts and half-truths.

See the problem with that?

Posted by Obamalot on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:32 PM

Stratus Blue

Freudian. If blogs on racism are sting operations, they sure do work. 2 so far.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 4:59 PM

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ஐkealeyஐ

Wow, I was really pleased to see this in the top blogs. Seeing that idiot 12-year-old girl that writes about politics constantly is so sad. I bet she actually thinks it's her blogs and thoughts that her male readers are interested in and not her porno-pic looking defaults.

Anyway, I hate patriotism. Hate it. The severely ignorant will accuse me of hating my country and being ungrateful for all that I have, but they are wrong. I just don't think I am a superior human being based on the fact that I was born in the US. I don't feel the need to chant, "USA USA USA" in some pathetic message to non- Americans that yes, I am superior to you solely based on where I was born, and everyone else is just SOL and definitely inferior because they didn't win the birth lottery and were born elsewhere...

That Mosey up there reads like a perfect example of a right wing conservative. I do not know a single one of them that isn't a racist, not one, and I know many I'm afraid. So clueless, so hateful, and yet so adamant on their views. I saw an old station wagon parked at the catholic church rectory across the street from my Grandma's house the other day, with a piece of paper taped to the window that read, "Obama, show us your birth certificate" and several right wing bs bumper stickers on the back. I wanted to wait and see who came out to drive away in that pile but I didn't have time lol.

Your list looks very thorough to me. I have my sister standing here talking at me (she voted for dubya TWICE btw lol) when I am clearly trying to write something, so I can't think of anything to add.

Thanks for this blog and thanks so much for making me feel less alone on how very much I despise racism.

Posted by ஐkealeyஐ on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:38 AM

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Stacy

I've met several conservatives, the majority actually, that are not racists, but I've met many far to the right Christian, neo-cons who are. We keep hearing that the tea party members could care less about Obama's skin color and they say it with a straight face when everybody know it's complete non-sense. Take the comment above, it was written on a blog by a man who claims he is not racist yet if you follow the link Mosey's comment has been deleted any fan fare. I ask, if anybody wrote that on your profile, blog or even said such a thing to you in person, would you ignore it? That person would be out of my life and I would have (and did) shout from the roof tops warning everybody I could about her.

Nice to see you here after we got off to such a rough start a while ago

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:25 PM

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ஐkealeyஐ

I'm sincerely happy to hear that you know people that identify themselves as conservatives that are not racists. My true wish is that we can all evolve to that someday, and I mean that with all my heart.

As far as the comment on the unnamed guy's blog by Mosey... omg, ugh, I absolutely agree. I would not let that crap slide for one second. Honestly, I wouldn't have a person like that on my friend's list for any reason. The racists I am related to, that I am forced to deal with on a constant basis don't get away with that kind of bs without a lecture from me either. Every. Single. Solitary. Time. I don't really give a shit how unlikeable it makes me seem or how much I might be ruining a "pleasant" gathering; I'm not gonna sit there and listen to it like it's ok.

Too many people worry about ruining a mood or offending the same people talking the racist crap! Lerd.

And I really hope this response comment was to me lol, because I honestly don't remember interacting with you before... ? Man I hope I wasn't a nasty bitch to you. Maybe you could give me a teeny reminder?

Posted by ஐkealeyஐ on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:26 PM

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Stacy

Hmmm I thought you and I had a conversation on Brown Eye'd Girl's blog that included McCauley Caulkin???

If not, then t was a different lady...

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:37 PM

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ஐkealeyஐ

hahaha! Ummm, I don't know who Brown Eye'd Girl is and I don't remember chatting with anyone about MC lol.

Yay! I wasn't a heinous bitch to you

Posted by ஐkealeyஐ on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:22 PM

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Stratus Blue

Patriotism is a virtue among the vicious. (Oscar Wilde, Sean Connery) That is not to say patriotism is bad. That is to say that vicious people elevate their hostility by elevating a feigned patriotism to justify hate.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:02 PM

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ஐkealeyஐ

Damn that is way too smartly written for me lol. But I think I get the gist and I do agree. Wait, no I don't really. Okay, patriotism is to me basically self-importance, patting oneself on the back for ones greatness... kinda like feeling superior because you are beautiful when that's just a genetic accident and nothing you did to deserve it.

I'll totally admit that I haven't thought a whole lot farther beyond my anger at what I perceive at patriotism, so I may be missing where you are coming from. Maybe you weren't even referring to my comment, but the reference in the blog haha. Yeah then I do feel silly.

Posted by ஐkealeyஐ on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:33 PM

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†ravler™®

Racism and bigotry is rampant in America. There are racists in every group.

If you want to learn how to insult everyone equally go find a set of books called "Truly Tasteless Jokes." These books were popular in the 80's and included the most racial jokes I have ever read. It used to be OK to make such jokes about a race or ethnicity but then political correctness took over and people had to bottle up their hatred. Now we are seeing that hatred overflow into society once again.

Posted by †ravler™® on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 1:00 PM

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Stratus Blue

Great work. Blogs about racism generate healing of humanity's deepest pain. Sure, some cling to their racism with hate of such blogs. But better work is hard to accomplish in journalism than discovery of the roots of inequality. Esteem. (Rousseau)

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 5:05 PM

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Quinn

I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. I don't approve of racism, but this ultra-touchy walking on eggshells business only compounds the problem.

Posted by Quinn on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 6:24 PM

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Stacy

I wish you could explain further what you mean here. I'm not sure what eggshells you are speaking of, I know I'm not ultra-touchy.

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 8:54 PM

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Voice for the mentally challenged

Dear stacey racism is taught through darwinism.

Posted by Voice for the mentally challenged on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 7:41 PM

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Frank SS

The Voice has SPOKEN!

Posted by Frank SS on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:41 PM

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Voice for the mentally challenged

Laugh if you want but mr hitler got his idea for a master race from some where and some belive he belived in darwinism. it teaches the blacks are closes to the monkey species and that we all evolved from monkeys so it does teach racism.

Posted by Voice for the mentally challenged on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:08 AM

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Ineffable

Evolutionary theory actually postulates that all of modern humanity came from a single tribe.

What you are alleging is completely untrue. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/5299351/African-tribe-populated-rest-of-the-world.html

Posted by Ineffable on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:53 AM

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Obamalot

It's a common myth that Hitler was an Atheist who believed in Darwinism.

Here are Hitler's thoughts on religion, in his own words:

1. Adolf Hitler: Acting According to God's Will

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2

2. Adolf Hitler: Thanking God

Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 5

3. Adolf Hitler: Deutschland Über Alles

I had so often sung 'Deutschland über Alles' and shouted 'Heil' at the top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act of grace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of the eternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 5

4. Adolf Hitler: God's Grace Smiles

Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord's grace smiled on His ungrateful children.

- Adolf Hitler reflecting on World War I, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Chapter 7

5. Adolf Hitler: Fulfilling God's Mission

What we have to fight for is the necessary security for the existence and increase of our race and people, the subsistence of its children and the maintenance of our racial stock unmixed, the freedom and independence of the Fatherland; so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 8

6. Adolf Hitler: Fate of God

But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to profane the Almighty.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 10

7. Adolf Hitler: Sin Against the Will of God

In short, the results of miscegenation are always the following: (a) The level of the superior race becomes lowered; (b) physical and mental degeneration sets in, thus leading slowly but steadily towards a progressive drying up of the vital sap. The act which brings about such a development is a sin against the will of the Eternal Creator. And as a sin this act will be avenged.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 11

8. Adolf Hitler: Sacrilege Against God

Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 1

9. Adolf Hitler: Confidence in God

Thus inwardly armed with confidence in God and the unshakable stupidity of the voting citizenry, the politicians can begin the fight for the 'remaking' of the Reich as they call it.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 1

10. Adolf Hitler: Gold has Replaced God

It may be that today gold has become the exclusive ruler of life, but the time will come when man will again bow down before a higher god.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 2

11. Adolf Hitler: Sin Against the Will of God

It doesn't dawn on this depraved bourgeois world that this is positively a sin against all reason; that it is criminal lunacy to keep on drilling a born half-ape until people think they have made a lawyer out of him, while millions of members of the highest culture-race must remain in entirely unworthy positions; that it is a sin against the will of the Eternal Creator if His most gifted beings by the hundreds and hundreds of thousands are allowed to degenerate in the present proletarian morass, while Hottentots and Zulu Kaffirs are trained for intellectual professions.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 2

12. Adolf Hitler: Creation of God

That this is possible may not be denied in a world where hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people voluntarily submit to celibacy, obligated and bound by nothing except the injunction of the Church. Should the same renunciation not be possible if this injunction is replaced by the admonition finally to put an end to the constant and continuous original sin of racial poisoning, and to give the Almighty Creator beings such as He Himself created?

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 2

13. Adolf Hitler: Don't Just Talk About Fulfilling God's Will

The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 10

14. Adolf Hitler: Doing Justice to God

To do justice to God and our own conscience, we have turned once more to the German Volk.

- Adolf Hitler in speech about the need for a moral regeneration of German, February 10, 1933

15. Adolf Hitler: Going Where God Wills

I go the way that Providence dictates with the assurance of a sleepwalker.

- Adolf Hitler, Speech, March 15, 1936, Munich, Germany

16. Adolf Hitler: May God Bless Us

May divine providence bless us with enough courage and enough determination to perceive within ourselves this holy German space.

- Adolf Hitler, Speech, March 24, 1933

17. Adolf Hitler: When We Appear Before God...

We don't ask the Almighty, 'Lord, make us free!" We want to be active, to work, to work together, so that when the hour comes that we appear before the Lord we can say to him: 'Lord, you see that we have changed.' The German people is no longer a people of dishonor and shame, of self-destructiveness and cowardice. No, Lord, the German people is once more strong in spirit, strong in determination, strong in the willingness to bear every sacrifice. Lord, now bless our battle and our freedom, and therefore our German people and fatherland.

- Adolf Hitler, Prayer, May 1, 1933

18. Adolf Hitler: Fighting for the Lord's Work

I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work.

- Adolf Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936

19. Adolf Hitler in Conversation with Cardinal Michael von Faulhaber

The Catholic Church should not deceive herself: if National Socialism does not succeed in defeating Bolshevism, then Church and Christianity in Europe too are finished. Bolshevism is the mortal enemy of the Church as much as of Fascism. ...Man cannot exist without belief in God. The soldier who for three and four days lies under intense bombardment needs a religious prop.

- Adolf Hitler in conversation with Cardinal Michael von Faulhaber of Bavaria, November 4, 1936

That should be good enough. There are more quotes availabe, just search the internet. I found these quotes at:

http://atheism.about.com/od/adolfhitlernazigermany/tp/AdolfHitlerFaithGod.01.htm

Posted by Obamalot on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:39 AM

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Stacy

You're killing me! Seriously!!!!!!

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:03 PM

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MooseHammer

Moose Hammer

Oh wow! ROFL!

Posted by MooseHammer on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:24 PM

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Stratus Blue

Hehe. I hope that was a joke.

Posted by Stratus Blue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 8:54 PM

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Stacy

No it isn't but go easy on Voice of the Mentally Challenged... He means well...

Posted by Stacy on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:38 PM

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~Aaron Lebeau~

Lol, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what racism is, but thanks for doing the science anyways.

Posted by ~Aaron Lebeau~ on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 9:41 PM

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