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This will be a 3 part blog due to the length of the information.
I want to start by giving a brief condensed version of the time-line of Televisions invention and use.
1927- Philo Farnsworth invents the first completely functional Television set.
1930 -TV is commercially available
1935-1939 -Starts the period that electronic television was perfected and several Countries began broadcasting, but most, experimentally with limited numbers of TV sets in the hands of the public.
June 1940- Peter Goldmark announces that CBS has marketable color technology that is done by part electronic and part mechanical by a spinning color wheel system.
1946- RCA TV's sold for $352 when the average annual income for an American was $3150 (6 weeks of pay to buy a TV set). Todays median income is $52,000 in the US, so that TV today would cost you $6000
1948- one in ten Americans has seen a TV
1949- 2 million sets are owned in America
1950- October-8 million sets in the US with 107 Television stations broadcasting.
1951- 13 million TV sets owned in America, I Love Lucy and Milton Berle show is broadcast.
1952- I Love Lucy is watched by 10.6 million homes and RCA has invented the transister TV. Darlene is now watching "I love Lucy", contrary to Showstoppers claims that TV wasn't invented by 1952.
Only 25 years too late on your estimate, Miss Showstopper. OWNED!!!
1953- 50% of Americans now have a tv in their home....except Showstoppers family because they "weren't invented yet"
Now that we have our Televisions invented, lets go to the music.
I will name this section: "American Bandstand VS Soul Train":
American Bandstand:
In September of 1952, "Bandstand", was a Philadelphia invention hosted by Bob Horn and his assistant Lee Stewart.
Lee Stewart, Bob Horn
Horn had a radio show on radio station WFIL, which also had a TV station with the same call letters.
Horn decided to change the show from just being music, into a "dance show" because he wasn't happy with the overall look of just music.
Horn was fired on July 9, 1956 from WFIL, for drunk driving.
WFIL was a LOCAL TV station so "Bandstand" was only seen by the locals.
Dick Clark had been standing in the background and was hired as Horn's replacement that day.
Dick Clark
American Bandstand focused on playing Top 40 music.
In 1957, ABC was looking to fill a slot in their programming and Dick Clark talked to their "brass" and managed to get "American Bandstand" into that slot.
The show aired on ABC for the first time on Aug 5, 1957
The only person to ever co-host with Dick Clark on the entire history of American Bandstand was Donna Summer when they were promoting the movie "Thank God It's Friday".
Donna Summer
In 1987, American Bandstand became a syndicated TV show.
April 1989, brought a new host, David Hirsch.
American Bandstand ended on Oct 7th, 1989 after its 37 year long run and 3000 episodes.
Only 883 of those episodes are surviving due to "media degeneration" aka...the recordings went bad from age.
Dick Clark suffered a stroke in 2004 when he acquired Type 2 diabetes.
He ended up with slurred speech and a loss of muscle control as a result of the stroke.
A few years later, he had made great progress with his speech and had made limited TV appearances.
Soul Train:
This vid is one of my favs by the way:
Don Cornelius was a DJ at Radio Station WVON in Chicago and was hired by TV station WCIU in 1967.
Previous to that hiring, WCIU had aired 2 programs,
"Kiddie a go go" and "Red Hot and Blues" which featured primarily African American dancers.
Don Cornelius
Cornelius was hired as the News and Sports reporter.
He went on to promote local talent at the high schools that he called "record hops" and he deemed it "The Soul Train".
WCIU noticed what he was doing and and hired him to take "The Soul train" to its own program on their station.
The show premiered on August 17th, 1970.
Clinton Ghent was the co-host on the program until 1976.
Clinton Ghent
Cornelius was the host until 1993 when he was replaced by various guest stars who hosted for the next two years.
Mystro Clark took over in 1997 and continued until 1999
Mystro Clark
when Shemar Moore replaced him.
Shemar Moore
In 2003 an actor: Dorian Gregory replaced Moore and hosted until 2006 when reruns started to air.
Dorian Gregory
While Cornelius still owned the Soul Train, the clips and shows were kept off of YouTube citing copyright infringement.
April 2009, Madvision Entertainment bought Soul Train and used archives to launch a YouTube channel.
Commentators of the Soul Train called the show "The Black American Bandstand"
Cornelius "tended to bristle at the AB comparison".
Pay attention to this part Showstopper, it corrects what you claimed about Dick Clark, he did NOT ban black acts from Bandstand...HERE is what happened:
Dick Clark attempted to "steal" Soul trains market share with a program called "Soul Unlimited"
It had a brief run on ABC with just a few shows in 1973 and was controversial for pronounced racial overtures.
Clark ended the show and agreed to work with Cornelius on a series of network specials featuring black artists.
Note: so he wasn't hating on Cornelius and actually decided to work WITH him after cancelling his OWN show.
Looks to me that Dick knew the racial bit was the wrong thing to do and tried to remedy the situation by cancelling the show and then making amends with Cornelius.
So much for your perception of what happened, SS.
At the end of Soul Trains episodes in its latter years, it boasted that it was "The Longest Continually running first run syndicated program"
To date, only Entertainment Tonight and Wheel Of Fortune can beat that record if they still go on running until 2017.
Soul Train ran for 35 years.
Conclusion:
Bandstand ran for 37 years and only 1 year of that Syndicated with a total of 3000 episodes in its various formats and not CONTINUALLY.
Soul Train ran for 35 years CONTINUALLY with 1117 episodes.
Dick Clark hosted for 33 years
Don Cornelius hosted for 22 years.
No contest here, American Bandstand made 3 to 1 in the ratio of shows and Clark hosted 11 years longer than Cornelius and Bandstand ran 2 years longer although not continually.
Bandstand Wins.
While both shows truly have bragging rights, Soul Train seems to boast only to confuse people that don't know these facts.
Here is a paste of interest about Soul Train:
Darlene wins her argument on all counts vs Showstopper about when TV was available and when Dick Clark started as the host for bandstand.
here's a celebration song for ya Darlene:
This will be a 3 part blog due to the length of the information.
I want to start by giving a brief condensed version of the time-line of Televisions invention and use.
1927- Philo Farnsworth invents the first completely functional Television set.
1930 -TV is commercially available
1935-1939 -Starts the period that electronic television was perfected and several Countries began broadcasting, but most, experimentally with limited numbers of TV sets in the hands of the public.
June 1940- Peter Goldmark announces that CBS has marketable color technology that is done by part electronic and part mechanical by a spinning color wheel system.
1946- RCA TV's sold for $352 when the average annual income for an American was $3150 (6 weeks of pay to buy a TV set). Todays median income is $52,000 in the US, so that TV today would cost you $6000
1948- one in ten Americans has seen a TV
1949- 2 million sets are owned in America
1950- October-8 million sets in the US with 107 Television stations broadcasting.
1951- 13 million TV sets owned in America, I Love Lucy and Milton Berle show is broadcast.
1952- I Love Lucy is watched by 10.6 million homes and RCA has invented the transister TV. Darlene is now watching "I love Lucy", contrary to Showstoppers claims that TV wasn't invented by 1952.
Only 25 years too late on your estimate, Miss Showstopper. OWNED!!!
1953- 50% of Americans now have a tv in their home....except Showstoppers family because they "weren't invented yet"
Now that we have our Televisions invented, lets go to the music.
I will name this section: "American Bandstand VS Soul Train":
American Bandstand:
In September of 1952, "Bandstand", was a Philadelphia invention hosted by Bob Horn and his assistant Lee Stewart.
Lee Stewart, Bob Horn
Horn had a radio show on radio station WFIL, which also had a TV station with the same call letters.
Horn decided to change the show from just being music, into a "dance show" because he wasn't happy with the overall look of just music.
Horn was fired on July 9, 1956 from WFIL, for drunk driving.
WFIL was a LOCAL TV station so "Bandstand" was only seen by the locals.
Dick Clark had been standing in the background and was hired as Horn's replacement that day.
Dick Clark
American Bandstand focused on playing Top 40 music.
In 1957, ABC was looking to fill a slot in their programming and Dick Clark talked to their "brass" and managed to get "American Bandstand" into that slot.
The show aired on ABC for the first time on Aug 5, 1957
The only person to ever co-host with Dick Clark on the entire history of American Bandstand was Donna Summer when they were promoting the movie "Thank God It's Friday".
Donna Summer
In 1987, American Bandstand became a syndicated TV show.
April 1989, brought a new host, David Hirsch.
American Bandstand ended on Oct 7th, 1989 after its 37 year long run and 3000 episodes.
Only 883 of those episodes are surviving due to "media degeneration" aka...the recordings went bad from age.
Dick Clark suffered a stroke in 2004 when he acquired Type 2 diabetes.
He ended up with slurred speech and a loss of muscle control as a result of the stroke.
A few years later, he had made great progress with his speech and had made limited TV appearances.
Soul Train:
This vid is one of my favs by the way:
Don Cornelius was a DJ at Radio Station WVON in Chicago and was hired by TV station WCIU in 1967.
Previous to that hiring, WCIU had aired 2 programs,
"Kiddie a go go" and "Red Hot and Blues" which featured primarily African American dancers.
Don Cornelius
Cornelius was hired as the News and Sports reporter.
He went on to promote local talent at the high schools that he called "record hops" and he deemed it "The Soul Train".
WCIU noticed what he was doing and and hired him to take "The Soul train" to its own program on their station.
The show premiered on August 17th, 1970.
Clinton Ghent was the co-host on the program until 1976.
Clinton Ghent
Cornelius was the host until 1993 when he was replaced by various guest stars who hosted for the next two years.
Mystro Clark took over in 1997 and continued until 1999
Mystro Clark
when Shemar Moore replaced him.
Shemar Moore
In 2003 an actor: Dorian Gregory replaced Moore and hosted until 2006 when reruns started to air.
Dorian Gregory
While Cornelius still owned the Soul Train, the clips and shows were kept off of YouTube citing copyright infringement.
April 2009, Madvision Entertainment bought Soul Train and used archives to launch a YouTube channel.
Commentators of the Soul Train called the show "The Black American Bandstand"
Cornelius "tended to bristle at the AB comparison".
Pay attention to this part Showstopper, it corrects what you claimed about Dick Clark, he did NOT ban black acts from Bandstand...HERE is what happened:
Dick Clark attempted to "steal" Soul trains market share with a program called "Soul Unlimited"
It had a brief run on ABC with just a few shows in 1973 and was controversial for pronounced racial overtures.
Clark ended the show and agreed to work with Cornelius on a series of network specials featuring black artists.
Note: so he wasn't hating on Cornelius and actually decided to work WITH him after cancelling his OWN show.
Looks to me that Dick knew the racial bit was the wrong thing to do and tried to remedy the situation by cancelling the show and then making amends with Cornelius.
So much for your perception of what happened, SS.
At the end of Soul Trains episodes in its latter years, it boasted that it was "The Longest Continually running first run syndicated program"
To date, only Entertainment Tonight and Wheel Of Fortune can beat that record if they still go on running until 2017.
Soul Train ran for 35 years.
Conclusion:
Bandstand ran for 37 years and only 1 year of that Syndicated with a total of 3000 episodes in its various formats and not CONTINUALLY.
Soul Train ran for 35 years CONTINUALLY with 1117 episodes.
Dick Clark hosted for 33 years
Don Cornelius hosted for 22 years.
No contest here, American Bandstand made 3 to 1 in the ratio of shows and Clark hosted 11 years longer than Cornelius and Bandstand ran 2 years longer although not continually.
Bandstand Wins.
While both shows truly have bragging rights, Soul Train seems to boast only to confuse people that don't know these facts.
Here is a paste of interest about Soul Train:
Soul Train wasn't the first black dance show, or even the first one on Chicago television. In the 1950s deejay Jim Lounsbury hosted Bandstand Matinee, inspired by the success of Philadelphia's Bandstand, which became American Bandstand. Lounsbury, who was white, also hosted Record Hop in the 1960s, giving airtime to Chicago's great black musicians. Other local dance shows included Time for Teens, Spin Time, and The Swingin' Majority. But the two most idiosyncratic programs, the ones that really paved the way for Soul Train, were WCIU's Kiddie-a-Go-Go and Red Hot and Blues. Kiddie-a-Go-Go, which unlike its teen-oriented counterparts featured preteen dancers, started in 1965 and ended only months before Soul Train debuted. The show welcomed black dancers, though they rarely came.
In 1967 WCIU debuted Red Hot and Blues, another dance show for adolescents, hosted by local "black-appeal" deejay Big Bill Hill and featuring only black dancers. Though it was exciting to hear black music on TV, local Soul Train dancer Wayne "Crescendo" Ward recalls in Lehman's book, Red Hot and Blues was far from the hippest trip in town: "No one really cool was on his show."
source:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/soul-train-local/Content?oid=1106014Darlene wins her argument on all counts vs Showstopper about when TV was available and when Dick Clark started as the host for bandstand.
here's a celebration song for ya Darlene:
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